Marco: Do we look reasonable to you? Mal: Well. Looks can be deceiving. Jayne: Not as deceiving as a low down dirty... deceiver.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


aurelia - Apr 21, 2005 8:17:53 pm PDT #7966 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

hunker on 3

1... 2...


§ ita § - Apr 21, 2005 8:18:14 pm PDT #7967 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

education, and real estate are the top two.

Hee. My mother suggested taking out a loan for my college education, and I told her under NO circumstances would I let her do that on my behalf.

It never occured to me that loans for university were more than normal, and that it was a cost that the student would bear.

God bless McGill. I think there might have been a loan involved in my sister's third degree, but she's a little brainiac and people like to give her neurons money.

Whoops. Way past my bedtime.

Quick question for those familiar with the LA area: Is Runyon Canyon worth driving to? Are there like canyons worth looking at closer to West LA?


§ ita § - Apr 21, 2005 8:18:37 pm PDT #7968 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Right. Hugging. Yes.

Of course. All over that.


Maria - Apr 21, 2005 8:25:01 pm PDT #7969 of 10001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Local.

So it may be a local phenomenon. That still doesn't allow you to make a blanket statement that all debt is bad.

Property values do increase, in some places more slowly than others. If you remain in the house for a significant period of time, you will make money.

My DF's parents bought their house in the '70s for $30 grand. His father worked for the government and retired in '95. They were barely scraping by on his retirement. The house was paid off a long time ago, but they took out another mortgage three years ago to make the non-liquid asset liquid. Technically, they were $150K richer, but unless they borrowed against the house, they couldn't touch it. So, with that cash, they invested it in mutual funds and bonds, and now have easier access to it if they need it. Their payment is far less than it was on their home equity line of credit.


Gus - Apr 21, 2005 8:26:17 pm PDT #7970 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Hugging is good.

It is what happens when Gus wins.


Maria - Apr 21, 2005 8:28:36 pm PDT #7971 of 10001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

It is what happens when Gus wins.

I think you meant to say, "It is what happens when WE LET Gus THINK he won."

I'ma hug you anyway. Though it may be around your knees.


Gus - Apr 21, 2005 8:32:15 pm PDT #7972 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

t winces on the x-post

Still, Maria, that was a local thing. Your DF-parents notwithstanding ...

Gawd, I hate to be a cocksucker, but can we compare 150K against the interest they paid over 30 years?


Consuela - Apr 21, 2005 8:37:17 pm PDT #7973 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

t sweeps into thread, hugs Gus, runs away from scary financial talk


Maria - Apr 21, 2005 8:40:40 pm PDT #7974 of 10001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Gawd, I hate to be a cocksucker, but can we compare 150K against the interest they paid over 30 years?

Assuming no money down and a 7% interest rate, a 30-year fixed had them paying ~$42K in interest. They're still ahead $108K.


beth b - Apr 21, 2005 8:45:05 pm PDT #7975 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I hate to add to the arguement - but if I remember the (fake)number of the loan my house needs to go up another 230k - if I pay the loan at the way it is set up. over 30 yrs - quite probable.

My parents never lost on a house. even being in the military and being in one house for just over a year.

It is possible to lose in the houseing market. there are bad places to buy and bad times. but if you can sit, it usually pays.