Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


joe boucher - Apr 20, 2005 11:22:25 am PDT #7464 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Not an Onion headline: Some see Virgin Mary in underpass stain.


Aims - Apr 20, 2005 11:23:42 am PDT #7465 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

That's it. I'ma paint one on my butt and charge people $15 to see it.


-t - Apr 20, 2005 11:23:57 am PDT #7466 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

We had terrible political arguments in my family during the Reagan years. It's left me pretty uncomfortable with even very civil political discussion, I'm always secretly afraid that someone is going to get thrown out of the house.


brenda m - Apr 20, 2005 11:25:05 am PDT #7467 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Aimee, you got change for a $20?


Aims - Apr 20, 2005 11:26:55 am PDT #7468 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

t gives brenda a fiver

drops trou


-t - Apr 20, 2005 11:27:06 am PDT #7469 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think you might be able to skip the painting part of that plan, Aimee.


msbelle - Apr 20, 2005 11:27:31 am PDT #7470 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I read that as underpants.


ChiKat - Apr 20, 2005 11:28:43 am PDT #7471 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I'd say 90% of my extended family (at least this portion of them) are all conservative Southern Baptist Republicans.

I feel your pain, askye. Probably 95% of my entire family (immediate and extended) fit that description. I just don't talk politics with them at all.


Nutty - Apr 20, 2005 11:30:23 am PDT #7472 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I've been rather successful at politely saying that I find what is being said offensive and I have to leave.

I think that's fair. The real question is, Why don't these people regret driving you out of the house every five minutes? The whole point of family get-togethers is, like, to be together with family, right?

I've had some extensive late-night politican discussions in family, but most of the time the argument is intended as the classical definition of argument: the putting across an idea to an audience, with the intention of persuading. And I have been known to enforce violently the rule that being obnoxious (or ad-hominem, or circular, or other forms fo rhetorical failure) does not count as "the intention of persuading."

Most of the time, family conversations at big events like Thanksgiving are long, involved digressions that slip easily from Dickens to Jung to the history of the Tennessee Valley Authority (that last thanks to Mr. Flea). They are more like performance and verbal play than they are all-out war.


§ ita § - Apr 20, 2005 11:31:20 am PDT #7473 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My mother and I argue politics a fair amount. Mostly it's me grilling her (no surprise, I guess) on the inconsistency of her position. Then she tells me to stop bothering me and excuses herself from the debate on the grounds of ... most recently it was public drunkeness.