Weird love's better than no love.

Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nutty - Apr 11, 2005 10:21:38 am PDT #4707 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Who's the standard of our age? (Note: If it's Antonin Scalia -- and you could probably raise at least a half-sound argument that it is --

Hope not. For one thing, I hope my age is not characterized by pointless crabbiness.

In ballpark news, the Red Sox game is under way. In the introduction of the players, all the Yankees got booed as expected, except Mariano Rivera, who got cheered wildly for giving up the hits that let us win last week. He laughed about it, tipped his cap.

I have skipped lunch. This is assuredly a mistake. What lunch can be achieved at 3pm, I wonder?


JohnSweden - Apr 11, 2005 10:24:53 am PDT #4708 of 10001
I can't even.

In ballpark news, the Red Sox game is under way. In the introduction of the players, all the Yankees got booed as expected, except Mariano Rivera, who got cheered wildly for giving up the hits that let us win last week. He laughed about it, tipped his cap.

That reminds me, the game is on tv here, so I need to get out of work sharp so I can catch the end of it.


Burrell - Apr 11, 2005 10:26:46 am PDT #4709 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I won't let incidental examples of the views of an age spoil my enjoyment of something.

I think it's a complicated issue. For me, much depends on what kind of "view" it reveals (I'm more forgiving of sexism in the 1930s than anti-semitism or fascism, for example). And what kind of writing it is. It's easier for me to pin a label onto a work of art than onto the artist who created it, unless that artist has made it abundantly clear in his/her personal and polemical writings that he/she shared that worldview.


DXMachina - Apr 11, 2005 10:29:34 am PDT #4710 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

That is one of the reasons why Wrigley Field is so beloved, DXM--they've done an excellent job of keeping the advertising to a bare minimum.

Oh, Fenway is pretty much the same. They make their money by charging outrageous prices for standing room "seats." Shea is one of the loud stadiums,not helped by the fact that it's directly under one of the flight paths out of LaGuardia.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 11, 2005 10:31:14 am PDT #4711 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

This does make me wonder who exactly will be looked upon as the standard of our age, centuries hence. I'm thinking Ghandi and the various WWII leaders had more impact on the actual flow of events than anyone else... but I wonder if individuals who are actively worshipped as gods will end up having longer-lived recognition. (Elvis is the only major Western figure of the 20th century I know of who has such a cult springing up, though I'm woefully ignorant of other cultures that have deified historical personalities.)


Betsy HP - Apr 11, 2005 10:33:30 am PDT #4712 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I hope my age is not characterized by pointless crabbiness.

Hey, my youth was, why should my decrepitude be any different?


Trudy Booth - Apr 11, 2005 10:34:56 am PDT #4713 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Yeah, don't get me started on how cool smoking is with all the fun stuff and business to do. Except it only gives you something to do with your hands in the privacy of your own home anymore -- at least where I live, you can't smoke inside anywhere else.

Every third improv scene on earth has someone smoking and probably for these very reasons.


tommyrot - Apr 11, 2005 10:47:14 am PDT #4714 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

When I was a kid, I got these fake cigarettes from some mail-order novelty shop. They had red foil on the tips, so in the right light and from a distance it really looked like you had a lit cigarette.

ION:

My name is tommyrot and I have an addiction. An addiction to Jelly Belly Raspberries and Blackberries. They're sorta like regular Jelly Bellys, but instead of a hard shell they have many tiny jimmy-like dots on the outside (making them look sorta' like berries). So nummy, and rather expensive. Saturday I took a train to downtown Chicago just so I could go to Neiman-Marcus and buy some.


beth b - Apr 11, 2005 11:01:43 am PDT #4715 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I am all for looking at things in there time. Because siletn film started in this area - and we now have a silent film museaum and theater in the neighborhood, I have seen a bunch. sterotypes - male/female , race ,otr ethnic are prtetty rampent. Plus the number of films that have drug useres ( needle) on screen is amazing. sometimes it is uncomfortabe. It should be. That doesn't mean I don't watch. Some films are good despite the sterotypes. - others might have been good films at the time, but they just don't reach a modern audience. Actually, they now have as part of the announcements a reminder that some of the things we see on screen might not be acceptable to today's audiences.


Fred Pete - Apr 11, 2005 11:06:27 am PDT #4716 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

we now have a silent film museaum and theater in the neighborhood

I've seen a fair number on TCM. And yeah, some of them can get pretty embarrassing. Even into the sound era -- I saw Harold Lloyd's first talkie, Welcome Danger, over the weekend, and a fair number of Chinese stereotypes kept taking me out of the movie (the plot involves a dope ring operating out of SF Chinatown).

Sad, because there's some pretty fair slapstick in there (though eventually it gets to be a bit much).