Zoe: Yeah? Thought you'd get land crazy that long in port. Wash: Probably, but I've been sane a long while now, and change is good.

'Shindig'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Apr 11, 2005 9:38:46 am PDT #4674 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I just remembered candy cigarettes,

I remember when they stopped having the "good" ones -- which had powdered sugar that you could puff out -- and I don't remember much prior to 1978 or so.


-t - Apr 11, 2005 9:39:32 am PDT #4675 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I loved candy cigarettes. We used to get them at the bowling alley. Which would have been when my mom was in a bowling league, so late 70s, maybe early early 80s. (eta: ooh, I never even knew about the puffy ones. Jealous)


brenda m - Apr 11, 2005 9:41:06 am PDT #4676 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm surprised the smoking rate for Gen X isn't higher than it is.

I think those were gone by the time Gen Xers really started hitting the ground. By the early 80s, anyway.


DebetEsse - Apr 11, 2005 9:41:17 am PDT #4677 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

They had them into the late 80s.


Kate P. - Apr 11, 2005 9:41:45 am PDT #4678 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Yeah, I definitely remember candy cigarettes from the late 80s.


JohnSweden - Apr 11, 2005 9:43:34 am PDT #4679 of 10001
I can't even.

He was, in fact, rather anti-Catholic; his friendship with Tolkien foundered on his contempt for Tolkien's religion.

Ah, yup. Today's Anglican church is a different institution than 1945's version, up here, anyway.

What I do say, and will continue to say, is that it annoys me, just as the anti-semitic stereotyping in Sayers annoys me.

I've never questioned that. I think part of the underlying back and forth of this discussion is the question of whether there is any relevance to today's society and individuals of what these old fogies wrote and I would suggest that of course there is, but their writing has to be considered in context and absorbed by an active reader, like any work.


P.M. Marc - Apr 11, 2005 9:43:44 am PDT #4680 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You could buy them at the on-campus grocery as late as 1993.


Jessica - Apr 11, 2005 9:44:19 am PDT #4681 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Candy cigarettes are out of fashion, but they're not gone.


Betsy HP - Apr 11, 2005 9:44:41 am PDT #4682 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

the question of whether there is any relevance to today's society and individuals of what these old fogies wrote

I haven't heard a single person advance that argument.


Lyra Jane - Apr 11, 2005 9:46:12 am PDT #4683 of 10001
Up with the sun

My entire knowledge of Lewis is based on Surprised By Joy, but going by that, the man may not have had a significant conversation with a woman until well into his 30s -- the world described in the book is almost entirely male. A few women turn up as neighbors or relatives, and there are allusions to sexual desire, but no female who could be considered a friend or equal.

I think it was much easier for that generation to see women as Other than we can imagine now.