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Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Apr 11, 2005 5:15:32 am PDT #4561 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I don't watch DH anymore, but Felicity Huffman's character was my favorite.


-t - Apr 11, 2005 5:16:58 am PDT #4562 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Whee, snazzy msbelle. That's got to be good. Have a good interview!

My favorite Desperate Housewife would be Lynette because she's got the problems I can most readily sympathize with. I enjoy watching Bree, Susan is irritating but falling through the floor is pretty amusing, and I don't care one way or the other about Gabrielle, but I'm interested in her storyline.


Vonnie K - Apr 11, 2005 5:19:08 am PDT #4563 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

You mean, there are people who *don't" like Bree (the redheaded one) the best?

Susan's klutzy helplessness gets on my last nerve. "Look at me! I'm so cute and helpless and I need someone to protect me from the big bad world! (As well as protect the world from me cutting a destructive swath in my wake.)" As if incompetence is a most darling trait in a woman.

Dude. I'm totally Edie. Except for the cleavagy slutbomb thing.


§ ita § - Apr 11, 2005 5:23:59 am PDT #4564 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like Lynette the best. Her issues and reactions seem mostly within scope, even if I don't agree with them (like getting hooked on Ritalin). Susan is slapstick and immature and irritating beyond belief. Also, she's having a codependent relationship with her daughter which always makes me mad. Gabrielle -- for a second there, I was kinda liking her, but now that I see she's an equal partner in the horror that is her marriage, I just can't anymore. As for Bree -- she's fun to watch, but I wouldn't go anywhere near her in real life. The spanking someone else's kids last night was a big no-no for me, and the calm way she sheltered her son from the repercussions of his drunk driving put a cap on my potential sympathy.

Edie -- well, she's just without interest for me. If maybe she was being painted as a Cordelia, but no, she has no real truths to impart, unless she's being meta. She's just a big old tramp that's taken care to paint herself into that corner.


JohnSweden - Apr 11, 2005 5:48:05 am PDT #4565 of 10001
I can't even.

So, Mr. Sweden, what do you think of the changes to Skydome Rogers Centre? We decided that late-inning grounder to Bellhorn, that should have been a double play but wasn't, was a result of the sand kicking up off the ball like a mirage. (When you see something moving on the "grass" in your peripheral vision, you've got to wonder whether you actually have the ball in your glove.)

I think the new turf is a big improvement (I think Bellhorn "sees mirages" on a pretty regular basis if his fielding elsewhere is any guide), but I do agree that all the added screens, including the wtf? screens instead of the outfield wall are a distraction instead of an asset, not even considering the threat to outfielders' life and limb (apparently they had guys out working on the rough edges the next day after Damon's cut).

From where my buddy and I were, we thought Hudson's double had gone out, because it disappeared against the screen, and didn't realize there was a play on at the plate until the ball got thrown back in.

There is way too much meaningless noise and advertising barrage of the spectator at modern ballparks. I wish I could write to our Mister Rogers and tell him that I already buy every product his company offers, could I please opt out of the bombardment of stuff at the game? It isn't the ads really, but the scoreboard nonsense activities (all of which have advertising connections) and other crap which distract from the "day out at the ballgame" field-of-dreams kind of experience that we are continually told is the magic of baseball.

The game itself is so good seen live, but in one's living room, one has some measure of control over the non-baseball noise one is subjected to.


Jessica - Apr 11, 2005 6:00:43 am PDT #4566 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Watch out, Sydney!


Vortex - Apr 11, 2005 6:04:10 am PDT #4567 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Susan's klutzy helplessness gets on my last nerve. "Look at me! I'm so cute and helpless and I need someone to protect me from the big bad world! (As well as protect the world from me cutting a destructive swath in my wake.)" As if incompetence is a most darling trait in a woman.

I know! But, in a wierd way, I can't help but like her a little. In an "i'm sorry that you're such a fuckup" way.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 11, 2005 6:10:49 am PDT #4568 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't watch DH anymore, but Felicity Huffman's character was my favorite.

This was me early on, but as it's become increasingly obvious that she's sabotaged any effort to solve the problems of her home life, whines and shirks responsibility constantly, and has a monstrous sense of entitlement, I've lost all sympathy. Susan's funny, but has become such a wacky charicature that I can't relate to her at all. I find myself liking Gabrielle despite disapproving of almost everything she does. Bree, while she has her Stepfordesque faults, is at least proactive and trying to do her best.


bon bon - Apr 11, 2005 6:13:13 am PDT #4569 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

OMG, the combination of craiglist and google maps is like the coolest thing ever: [link]

Truly we live in a golden age.


§ ita § - Apr 11, 2005 6:15:33 am PDT #4570 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

proactive and trying to do her best.

Protecting her son from punishment for what he's done doesn't strike me as anything near her best.