Book: Yes, I'd forgotten you're moonlighting as a criminal mastermind now. Got your next heist planned? Simon: No. But I'm thinking about growing a big black mustache. I'm a traditionalist.

'War Stories'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - Apr 04, 2005 9:41:57 am PDT #2915 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

At the same time, I've always been a fan of "Kids will learn to talk like adults best if they're exposed to people talking like adults".

Research says that's not true. Baby talk is actually easier to learn for babies, and its characteristics (which consonants are dropped, that sort of thing) are consistent across cultures.


tommyrot - Apr 04, 2005 9:42:22 am PDT #2916 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, and what happened to Big Bird? It must be that he or she got too busy to hang out with the gang on Sesame Street once he/she/it started attending Jedi Academy.


tommyrot - Apr 04, 2005 9:43:10 am PDT #2917 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

tommy, were you thinking of the Athabasca Tar Sands?

I think so.


beekaytee - Apr 04, 2005 9:47:40 am PDT #2918 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Elmo rules in my house.

Not because of the show, but because the 'ticklemeelmo' balls I pick up at yard sales are Bartleby's favorite toys EVAH.

I have to say, watching him run around with his snoot vibrating and hearing that tinny little voice squeal "Wheee! This is FUN!!" cracks my shit all the way up.

Gosh. I hope his language skills won't be stunted.

There's no mystery as to why I find the same toy at every yard sale. A kid playing with it? Insanity inducing. The dog? Eh. Whatever.

In FACT. If any 'ista parents would like to tell their kids that Elmo has gone to a farm in the country, I'd be happy to pay postage on the little red wigglers. Profile addy is good...and it will be our little secret.


Sean K - Apr 04, 2005 9:48:41 am PDT #2919 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

"Kids will learn to talk like adults best if they're exposed to people talking like adults". And Elmo so doesn't.

This. I'll get high pitched and gurgly around kids, but I also try to talk coherently (when I can, sometimes kids, like Emma, can just rob me of all coherent speech with the cute).

Research says that's not true.

Really? Huh. Fascinating.


Nutty - Apr 04, 2005 9:49:52 am PDT #2920 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Baby talk is actually easier to learn for babies, and its characteristics (which consonants are dropped, that sort of thing) are consistent across cultures.

Baby talk for babies, yes, but for children who can say sentences/phrases, exposing them to somebody whose phrases are intentionally ungrammatical? Elmo no like.

Oh, help. Canna concentrate on work and am busy researching disasters and near-disasters instead. I'm up to the Great Molasses Flood, and how humiliating to drown in molasses! Hecubus may be pleased to know how many pitchers I've found who have been hit with comebackers (including Mike Mussina, a shot that broke his nose, although it sounds like it could have killed him) and came back to be just fine.


flea - Apr 04, 2005 9:50:18 am PDT #2921 of 10001
information libertarian

Me hate Elmos' voice. Me understand Elmo loved by children and developmentally sound, but Elmo's voice make me want to kill Elmo.


Betsy HP - Apr 04, 2005 9:51:44 am PDT #2922 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Me miss lovable furry old Grover.


beekaytee - Apr 04, 2005 9:55:30 am PDT #2923 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Hey yeah. Whatever happened to Grover?

I'm afraid I've missed some major story. Like Grover is in rehab, or has taken the cloth.


-t - Apr 04, 2005 9:55:43 am PDT #2924 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

While Sesame Street changing always makes me a little sad because today's Sesame Street isn't exactly what I grew up with, these changes aren't arbitrary. Every one that I've heard of has been a well-thought out response to a valid concern. Maybe it's more protective than some pre-schoolers (and their parents) require, but considering I am still carrying around lessons I learned from Sesame Street 30+ years ago (specific things - I can recall the scene that illustrated them), I'm certainly not going criticize SS for being very careful about what lessons they are teaching.