Inara: I think she looks adorable. Mal: Yeah, but I never said it.

'Shindig'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sean K - Apr 01, 2005 9:16:08 am PST #2333 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

You mean like, Pi?

Like the book, it's a fixed set, and becomes semi-unrandom.

After a while, God called him up and told him to lay off with the pressure because it was annoying.

BWAHAHAHA!


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2005 9:19:49 am PST #2334 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

you're sposed to flip to a random page

But then you're doing the work!


Betsy HP - Apr 01, 2005 9:21:03 am PST #2335 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Actually, you can't flip to a random page, because of the nature of book bindings. You're much more likely to flip to the dead middle than to pages on the extremes, and over time the binding becomes creased and naturally opens to specific sections


-t - Apr 01, 2005 9:21:29 am PST #2336 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Like the book, it's a fixed set, and becomes semi-unrandom.

It's fixed, but it's infinitely long so you can always just move down to an as yet unused stretch of randomosity. Like the Mad Hatter's tea party.


Rick - Apr 01, 2005 9:21:42 am PST #2337 of 10001

If even computers can't really create strings of random numbers, is it even possible to create long strings of truly random numbers?

Sean is forcing me to air the dirty laundry. The Rand numbers (from the book) were generated by computers with lots of arcane (and probably irrelvant) steps to ensure that they are really random. It turns out that you need more than a million numbers to prove that an almost random sequence is not truly random , so the Rand numbers are pretty well safe from falsification. Number sequences from PCs are not. People have just given up and started calling them pseudo-random sequences. Good enough.

Of course, I'm a psychologist, so even the things I'm trying to measure systematically turn out to be pretty close to random much of the time. It's really only and issue in sciences that have, uh, made more progress than we have.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2005 9:21:48 am PST #2338 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What if you rip the pages out of the binding and throw them up into the air a whole bunch of times?

Are we random yet?

Are we?

Are we?


Betsy HP - Apr 01, 2005 9:22:35 am PST #2339 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

What if you rip the pages out of the binding and throw them up into the air a whole bunch of times?

All the physicists come down the hall and snigger.


-t - Apr 01, 2005 9:23:06 am PST #2340 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I always thought you used the book of random numbers kind of like an I Ching - you flipped a coin or rolled a die or something to choose the page and row and column and used the resulting number.

But I've never had to use it, so I don't actually know.


sarameg - Apr 01, 2005 9:24:28 am PST #2341 of 10001

Are we?

Throw a cat and a toddler into the mix. That should guarantee it.


Lyra Jane - Apr 01, 2005 9:24:43 am PST #2342 of 10001
Up with the sun

I think some of the people praying for the Pope are probably praying that his last hours are peaceful ones, rather than that he miraculously get better. Though I'm sure some people are asking for both.

To me, the funniest thing about the Pope's passing is the Vatican announcements that refer to him as the Holy Father. It's just somehow ... disconcerting ... to read, "the Holy Father's blood pressure is dropping rapidly, and he is still recieving antibiotic therapy." Kind of like "the Commander in Chief cholked on a pretzel."