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Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Mar 31, 2005 10:12:48 am PST #1916 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

A scary but interesing column about America's drift toward a fascist theocracy--it might be a bit extreme, but it's definitely something to think about.

Don't expect the jackboots to march around the corner tomorrow. Don't expect homes to be indiscriminately raided. Don't expect citizens to be hauled off in the dead of night -- although that has been the case with indiscriminate arrests of many Muslim immigrants since 9/11.

Consider, however, the anti-democratic warning signs: the Patriot Act and subsequent civil liberties-busting legislation; election snafus seamlessly fading into history; a war carried out on the basis of misinformation and disinformation; secret prisons where captives are tortured.

Think about how things change slowly, yet dramatically, while good people either aren't paying attention or are too satisfied to raise their voices.


Nutty - Mar 31, 2005 10:14:39 am PST #1917 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

beatification

Wait, don't you have to, like, have done something on purpose to forward the faith? Like, I don't think somebody who accidentally fell off a cliff could be called an advocate for cliff safety. An example for future advocates, yes; an advocate, no.

Then again, last time we had this conversation, I asked why Kitty Genovese hadn't been beatified.


Connie Neil - Mar 31, 2005 10:16:25 am PST #1918 of 10001
brillig

If the pope can have "holy suffering", I'm thinking Terri trumps him.


Nutty - Mar 31, 2005 10:20:13 am PST #1919 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, but the Pope jumped through various theological and ritual hoops to become the Pope. Like, every booger the Pope blows is a holy booger (or, it would be, if we valued boogers) not because he's a guy named Karol but because Karol grew up and did all the things that make one Pope.

Presumably (or anyway theoretically, with apologies to the Borgias), Popely things marry ritual to spiritual milestones, such that getting to the top of the bureaucratic heap makes one automatically higher spiritually.


ChiKat - Mar 31, 2005 10:21:47 am PST #1920 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Betsy, that 911 call is both hysterical and maddening. How in the holy hell can that woman get dressed by herself?


Kathy A - Mar 31, 2005 10:23:02 am PST #1921 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Anyone ever read "The Shoes of the Fisherman"? I think that was the beginning of my "No, the Pope is NOT infallible!" thinking that has led to me reconsidering the whole being a Catholic thing.


P.M. Marc - Mar 31, 2005 10:25:00 am PST #1922 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Ah, the joys of being at home when the mail comes!

First, my random stack of fannish swag now includes a Drew Goddard signed Alias baseball cap. (From the drawing from the last Minion charity drive. I should just hang it on the hanger with the Numero Cinco shirt signed by Jeff Bell.)

But, more importantly to my Very Shallow Self: old stock Charles of the Ritz Power Foundation in Paper White, aka, the powder foundation every Gothlet who could get away with it was wearing 12 years ago. Squee! Ahem. The black and pink compact is giving me flashbacks to my youth, it has the same Interestingly Pale effect as remembered, and best of all, I have THREE MORE compacts of the stuff en route.

(And yes, I alerted Jilli. And yes, she also picked some up.)

It's become increasingly hard to find a good, pale, powder foundation. Aveda reformulated and all the new shades are too dark, Urban Decay discontinued theirs, and MAC makes me break out. So this was a happy eBay score.

We now return you to actual on topic Natter.


Amy - Mar 31, 2005 10:26:52 am PST #1923 of 10001
Because books.

Why, why, why are we making it our business to listen? This sort of thing happens everyfrickingday.

Well, I may be a sap, but just watching this play out over the last month made me care about her, and her family, on both sides. It also made me think about the fact that this is happening to others every day, and what that must be like. (As well as talk to my husband about living wills and directives, which is a good thing, clearly, to do beforehand.)

Also? I think the larger issues of the laws governing living wills and medical guardianship and Congress trying to step in and take over one person's medical care is my business to know. I need to be informed about this stuff, even if it's stuff I never want to imagine would happen to me or mine, because it very well might one day.


Kathy A - Mar 31, 2005 10:28:35 am PST #1924 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Scary:

Appearing on CNN this morning, Focus on the Family's James Dobson seemed to suggest that Congress reconsider the entire structure of the federal judicial system. Noting that the Constitution created the Supreme Court but left Congress with the authority to "ordain and establish" the lower courts, Dobson said members of Congress have "all sorts of power in dealing with the courts, but they haven't had the political gumption to do it." For example, Dobson said, Congress could simply "take away the franchise" of the left-of-center U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit "and then reestablish it the next day," presumably with more conservative judges in place.


Gudanov - Mar 31, 2005 10:32:35 am PST #1925 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

The Focus on the Family take on Terri's death:

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