Xander: Just once I'd like to run into a cult of bunny worshippers. Anya: Great. Thank you very much for those nightmares.

'Sleeper'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Mar 31, 2005 6:14:24 am PST #1787 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I certainly hope everyone involved in that family finds some peace now. My thought on the case, is that there is a reason why court after court ruled the way they did. That's the job of the courts, to figure out how the law applies to a particular case.


brenda m - Mar 31, 2005 6:14:57 am PST #1788 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

No matter how much (or how little) is published, there are complex human interactions and emotions involved here, and years of history and day-to-day decisions that can't be summed up in one article.

I think that lets them off way too easily. What precisely is their reason for being if not to present complex matters and circumstances, and when did we and they start buying the idea that "he said/she said" is an adequate substitute for an evaluation of the merits of the claims on both sides?


tommyrot - Mar 31, 2005 6:18:09 am PST #1789 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

when did we and they start buying the idea that "he said/she said" is an adequate substitute for an evaluation of the merits of the claims on both sides?

That's been going on for awhile now. (Can't nail down a date, but I think it started when all the media companies started consolidating in the '80s and '90s.)

Paul Krugman has a joke that if the Republicans came out and said the world was flat, and the Democrats responded by saying that wansn't true, the newspaper headlines would read, "The Shape of the World - Two Opposing Views."


Jessica - Mar 31, 2005 6:19:40 am PST #1790 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

More urgently of note, Jessica needs to post right after me to coordinate our tags properly.

Ready? Go!


Amy - Mar 31, 2005 6:20:56 am PST #1791 of 10001
Because books.

I think that lets them off way too easily.

Well, yes and no. I think the coverage here was often slanted one way or the other, but I also agree with Gud -- the courts are designed to decide cases like this, and did so, usually with the same rulings time after time. But the media offered bits and pieces, some of which seemed purposely offered to spark debate.

My rather incoherent point was both, I guess, that the reporting should have been more objective and more complete, but also that without having peronsal knowledge of some of the pieces of this case (i.e. interaction with Terri herself, and/or a boatload of medical knowledge) it would be hard for any one in the general public to truly know what's gone on, and what the best possible outcome would be.


Pix - Mar 31, 2005 6:21:43 am PST #1792 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Ready? Go!

Now earwormed with Blue Man Group.


Nutty - Mar 31, 2005 6:23:01 am PST #1793 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

"The Shape of the World - Two Opposing Views."

This problem has been exacerbated by the Republican machine of late, as well. They've got some notoriety for playing favorites among media outlets on basis of who is most flattering. I mean, probably all parties do this, bank on their power while they've got it I mean, but it's a much more organized, top-down, systematic effort this time around than during, say, the incredibly haphazard Clinton years.

Of course, also, because the party has a strict organization, all of its apparatchiks use the same talking points, and it becomes really hard to get any actual insight. But that's not a reason for news organizations not to try.


Jesse - Mar 31, 2005 6:23:22 am PST #1794 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I just hope no one I care about ever becomes a test case, or a cause celebe. Family tragedies are hard enough without being in the news, or Congress.

Relatedly, last night's Daily Show rerun was the one with Colbert as an ethicist talking about Congress's "separation.....and POWER."

Emily, I don't know if it's too late, but finding statistical correlation is the kind of thing I learned in college, not high school.


Gudanov - Mar 31, 2005 6:23:58 am PST #1795 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

The song in my head:

Cat's in the cradle with the silver moon
Little Boy Blue and the man in the moon
When you comin' home, Dad?
I don't know when, but we'll get together then
You know we'll have a good time then


tommyrot - Mar 31, 2005 6:25:11 am PST #1796 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

That song is so sad....