Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


Natter 34: Freak With No Name  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - Mar 29, 2005 1:37:09 pm PST #1323 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Presbyterians in general, IME, aren't too concerned with things like drinking and dancing.

I'm ashamed to admit that when my parents turned Methodist, my first question was "Can you still drink?"

The answer was "yes", but they're Episcopal now and likely to stay that way; my father's studying for the diaconate.


msbelle - Mar 29, 2005 1:38:41 pm PST #1324 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am sure the Evangelical Christians are miffed that folks like me call ourselves Christians instead of Whorish Christians, or Morally Depraved Christians, or Drunkard Christians....


Betsy HP - Mar 29, 2005 1:50:18 pm PST #1325 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Yup. We've got a whole bunch of reasons for despising one another.


StuntHusband - Mar 29, 2005 1:53:38 pm PST #1326 of 10001
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark

My final brush with any branch of the Christian faith involved St. Gregory of Nyssa's Episcopal Church in San Francisco (I was long-distance dating a gent who ended up an ordained deacon there).

WONDERFUL place. Singing, dancing, LOTS of food. Drinking's okay, just not irresponsible behavior.

Then the gent went crazy, decided not to pursue his vocation (he was in discernment for the priesthood), moved to South Carolina and became Orthodox - as far as denying his own sexuality and preaching the most reactionary nonsense I've ever heard - and I'm from Oregon, Land of Small Town Thinking.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2005 1:54:54 pm PST #1327 of 10001
What is even happening?

Huh. I think we polished off four bottles of Fat Bastard at the minister's house on Easter Sunday. YMinisterMV, I guess. Presbyterians in general, IME, aren't too concerned with things like drinking and dancing.
Well that was my point. Most Christians do drink, as do my minister and his wife. Enough of them take issue with it, that it's considered a stumbling block for some.

Right. But, as you say, they call themselves "Christian" when actually it's "Evangelical Christian".

I am sure the Evangelical Christians are miffed that folks like me call ourselves Christians instead of Whorish Christians, or Morally Depraved Christians, or Drunkard Christians....

There needs to be a new adjective I think, because it's even more than Evangelical. I smoke and drink and yet am Evangelical. I'm pretty sure Teppy's FCA was Evangelical, and if I'm remembering right, she said they all drank and most smoked. It's a sub-group within evangelicalism, and that publishing line is catering to the most conservative sub-group, because that's who their booksellers cater to.


DavidS - Mar 29, 2005 1:55:48 pm PST #1328 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In news of me, haircut has been accomplished: [link] Now with more nape!

It is my opinion that this is a very attractive look for you. Also, good haircut.


Karl - Mar 29, 2005 1:56:02 pm PST #1329 of 10001
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.

Now with more nape!

Mmmmmmm ... nape.

Brenda's pretty.

That is all.


DavidS - Mar 29, 2005 1:56:39 pm PST #1330 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I smoke and drink and yet am Evangelical.

Yes, but do you go whoring? That's my test case.


Betsy HP - Mar 29, 2005 1:56:53 pm PST #1331 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

It's a sub-group within evangelicalism, and that publishing line is catering to the most conservative sub-group, because that's who their booksellers cater to.

Exactly. It's a pretty weird subset of Christian who's going to stop reading a book because the heroine goes to a Methodist church.


DavidS - Mar 29, 2005 1:58:37 pm PST #1332 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Brenda's pretty.

Isn't she? I think she's peaking right now. Probably this evening.