FWIW, Ple, the excruciating recognition factor became more muted and fun became more prominent in F&G as it went on. It never lost its perfect pitch, but the characters begin to move beyond their situations in surprising and interesting ways.
Bye, now. Have good sex.
Kaylee ,'Jaynestown'
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DavidS - Jan 02, 2006 9:04:21 pm PST #9499 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
P.M. Marc - Jan 02, 2006 9:18:48 pm PST #9500 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Eh, life is short, and it was so firmly in Not My Beautiful Cake land that I'm not sure I'll ever have the nerve to try beyond that, and what I said about needing more magic in my realism is totally true, and kind of a refreshing epiphany that will totally help me choose what I want to watch in movies and TV.
Basically, I need something where the emotional truth is wrapped in a fairly stylised package, and it will sing for me.
The more I think about it, the more I can apply this to damn near all my preferences in life, from what I watch to what sort of church service I enjoy attending.
I am nothing if not predictable.
DavidS - Jan 02, 2006 9:29:30 pm PST #9501 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Basically, I need something where the emotional truth is wrapped in a fairly stylised package, and it will sing for me.
Oh, I totally get that. Not applying this to you, but I remember much of the debate about BtVS S6 being about the loss of the metaphoric base of the show. Which was a conscious decision on Joss' part, but jarring for a lot of fans. Also it came at cost of much of the humor of the show. With the distancing effect of the metaphor you had more room for humor somehow.
§ ita § - Jan 02, 2006 9:32:29 pm PST #9502 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Also it came at cost of much of the humor of the show.
Dude, just like The OC.
DavidS - Jan 02, 2006 9:47:55 pm PST #9503 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Dude, just like The OC.
So, Ryan is S6 Spike and Seth is Buffy?
§ ita § - Jan 02, 2006 9:48:39 pm PST #9504 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
And Caleb is...Caleb.
DavidS - Jan 02, 2006 9:53:06 pm PST #9505 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
And Caleb is...Caleb.
Maybe he could be Rack. Or that would be Ryan's brother?
Jessica - Jan 03, 2006 4:48:27 am PST #9506 of 10002
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I totally didn't recognize Ciaran Hinds, the whole movie long (like, I knew I knew him, but had no idea from where)
I kept thinking what an amazing physical transformation Alan Rickman had gone through. And then the credits rolled and I was like Oh, Nevermind.
I may be alone in thinking that Apatow's work has gotten steadily stronger, and that F&G just screams "BEHOLD MY FIRST-TIME WRITER UBERREALISM!!" in a way that completely negates any real realism the show may have had. It's got the seeds of a good writer in it, but he just wasn't there yet.
askye - Jan 03, 2006 5:09:54 am PST #9507 of 10002
Thrive to spite them
I watched Mr. & Mrs. Smith over the weekend. I thought it went on too long and the ending was kind of a cop out -- it felt like the writers wrote themselves into a corner at the last minute and then just slapped a tag on to fix it. I hated the all female aspect of Jane's, it seemed way way too much like Charlie's Angels.
§ ita § - Jan 03, 2006 5:12:33 am PST #9508 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Ending? What ending?
Movie just kinda...stopped.
I thought it was very funny, much more than I was expecting, and the main fight scene, apart from the bit where Angelina clearly wasn't up to holding up her end, was really really good.
Plus, even though I think Angelina's funny looking, it managed to be a very sexy film.