Looks like civilization finally caught up with us.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


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Scrappy - Dec 05, 2005 8:13:28 am PST #8910 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I should get some (eps) tomorrow.

Cool, Erika! We are watching the last episode tonight. One warning--You may not get into it until episode two or three so give it time to suck you in.


erikaj - Dec 05, 2005 8:21:28 am PST #8911 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

That's pretty much HBO SOP although maybe I loved the first "Sopranos"


Maysa - Dec 05, 2005 8:58:18 am PST #8912 of 10002

Also, she stars in my all-time favorite romantic comedy, I Know Where I'm Going.

Oh, that's such a good movie.

I like both of them, a lot. My Fair Lady may be a "why" musical, but it's a good "why" musical

I have to say that despite all the things I dislike about MFL, I have an embarrassing love of "On the Street Where You Live."


DebetEsse - Dec 05, 2005 9:00:58 am PST #8913 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Oh, I don't dispute that the music doesn't suck. Not for a moment.


Calli - Dec 05, 2005 9:12:47 am PST #8914 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

For some reason, "On the Street Where You Live" always segues into "People Will Know We're in Love" in my brain.


Kathy A - Dec 05, 2005 9:22:08 am PST #8915 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Dennis DeYoung has a really good doo-wop version of "On the Street Where You Live" on his 10 on Broadway album.


JZ - Dec 05, 2005 9:22:09 am PST #8916 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

"On The Street Where You Live" is a marvelous song, as are many others from MFL; I just wish they were in some other musical so I could enjoy the context as well as the songs.

I mean, for heaven's sake, Shaw wrote an afterword to the play that was, IIRC, some forty pages or so, explaining in excruciating detail exactly why Eliza would never return to Professor Higgins, why she would marry her pretty but callow intellectual inferior, and why she'd be glad of it in the end. Shaw was entirely on the side of Higgins's mother: He treated Eliza with a sort of indulgent contempt, he didn't see her as anything like an equal, and even if he knew deep down that she really was, he would never bend enough to acknowledge it openly.

Pretty inferior boy? Dim, but at least he knew it, and he knew Eliza wasn't. He may have been frivolous and foolish and he may have idealized her and doted on her to a mildly sickening degree, but he was idealizing and doting on her brains, her wit and her drive as well as her prettiness. He knew he was neither a match nor a catch for her in anything but social standing and wealth, and it didn't stop him from loving her in the least. Shaw's position was that no matter his inferiority to Higgins on many accounts, he could and would provide Eliza with the freedom to be herself, and be admired and loved all the more for it.

The musical certainly has its virtues, but I'm pretty sure that if Shaw hadn't been already dead, the ending would have killed him. Actually, I'm pretty sure that Lerner and Loewe would never have dared write it while he was still alive.

my all-time favorite romantic comedy, I Know Where I'm Going

Squee! Not my very favorite, but oh so wonderful.


Kathy A - Dec 05, 2005 9:24:14 am PST #8917 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

But didn't Shaw romanticize the ending for the Hiller/Howard movie version that he adapted? IIRC, it was definitely more in line with MFL than the original play.


JZ - Dec 05, 2005 9:27:48 am PST #8918 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

But didn't Shaw romanticize the ending for the Hiller/Howard movie version that he adapted? IIRC, it was definitely more in line with MFL than the original play.

I don't remember -- it's been so long since I saw the film, and it was a tape from a crappy print with lots of sound distortion, so my memory of it is very fuzzy. But the essay at the end of an earlier edition of the play is seared on my memory.

If he went and pussied out on the ending to please the movie people, I'm'a dig him up and kick his dead ass.


Scrappy - Dec 05, 2005 9:28:46 am PST #8919 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Yeah, but even in the first production of the play, the actors added a bit of business with flowers which implied that Eliza ends upo with Higgins. It made Shaw apoplectic, but despite his treatise on the economic sense of Eliza ending up with Freddy and opening a flower shop, I always thought she ended up with Higgins. I think he can learn to see her as the wonderful thing that she is--after all, if a lovely man like Pickering can be Higgins' friend, there must be something to him