Ian Curtis.
I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.
Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'
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Jim - Sep 09, 2005 5:22:52 am PDT #7251 of 10002
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Tom Scola - Sep 09, 2005 5:29:53 am PDT #7252 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Aren't shamans supposed to like, you know, help people, and not just engage in hedonism?
Jim - Sep 09, 2005 5:32:20 am PDT #7253 of 10002
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Ian Curtis was hardly a hedonist.
Tom Scola - Sep 09, 2005 5:33:16 am PDT #7254 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
I was referring to Morrison, sorry.
Volans - Sep 09, 2005 5:35:37 am PDT #7255 of 10002
move out and draw fire
Aren't shamans supposed to like, you know, help people, and not just engage in hedonism?
Without digging up my notebooks...oh, right, I didn't take any notes in college...her premise was that shamans were cultural leaders, and directed the cultural memes and mores of a society. NSM with the helping.
Also, drug use and visions.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 09, 2005 5:35:47 am PDT #7256 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I thought shamanism would somehow equate to mysticism. Which does sort of relate to Morrison, but I'm not sure how it would apply to Curtis.
Obejct of adoration and an icon, yes, but I don't see a lot of the mystical there.
Frankenbuddha - Sep 09, 2005 5:37:59 am PDT #7257 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
directed the cultural memes and mores of a society
OK that I can see relating to Ian Curtis, though a distinct sub-culture, not society at large. I guess the same could be said about Morrison, though.
Lyra Jane - Sep 09, 2005 7:16:26 am PDT #7258 of 10002
Up with the sun
The professor, a tiny woman was also my Japanese instructor, believed that Jim Morrison was the closest thing to a shaman modern white culture had to offer.
... and that would be the day I dropped the class and stormed out.
I have this huge blinding Jim Morrisson hatred, the kind of thing most people direct at poor Britney Spears.
Hayden - Sep 09, 2005 7:16:26 am PDT #7259 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
Uh, Timothy Leary, maybe? Allen Ginsberg? Heck, I think even W could be a shaman by that description, what with the drug use and crazy visions.
Anyway, I'm glad you dug Dead Man, Raq. I love the hell out of that movie. Neil Young's soundtrack is extraordinary, too. It's one of the few soundtracks I listen to on a regular basis.
Scrappy - Sep 09, 2005 7:36:16 am PDT #7260 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Ah, Corwood, at last a Western we agree on! Dead Man is dear to my heart.