Ian Curtis.
Oz ,'Storyteller'
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Aren't shamans supposed to like, you know, help people, and not just engage in hedonism?
Ian Curtis was hardly a hedonist.
I was referring to Morrison, sorry.
Aren't shamans supposed to like, you know, help people, and not just engage in hedonism?
Without digging up my notebooks...oh, right, I didn't take any notes in college...her premise was that shamans were cultural leaders, and directed the cultural memes and mores of a society. NSM with the helping.
Also, drug use and visions.
I thought shamanism would somehow equate to mysticism. Which does sort of relate to Morrison, but I'm not sure how it would apply to Curtis.
Obejct of adoration and an icon, yes, but I don't see a lot of the mystical there.
directed the cultural memes and mores of a society
OK that I can see relating to Ian Curtis, though a distinct sub-culture, not society at large. I guess the same could be said about Morrison, though.
The professor, a tiny woman was also my Japanese instructor, believed that Jim Morrison was the closest thing to a shaman modern white culture had to offer.
... and that would be the day I dropped the class and stormed out.
I have this huge blinding Jim Morrisson hatred, the kind of thing most people direct at poor Britney Spears.
Uh, Timothy Leary, maybe? Allen Ginsberg? Heck, I think even W could be a shaman by that description, what with the drug use and crazy visions.
Anyway, I'm glad you dug Dead Man, Raq. I love the hell out of that movie. Neil Young's soundtrack is extraordinary, too. It's one of the few soundtracks I listen to on a regular basis.
Ah, Corwood, at last a Western we agree on! Dead Man is dear to my heart.