Wild monkey love or tender Sarah McLachlan love?

Xander ,'Him'


Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

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Volans - Aug 31, 2005 9:51:24 am PDT #6987 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Anyway, I think ultimately that Raq's problem with this movie is that it doesn't have the brainpower of comics like The Watchmen or Powers, both of which do examine (with wild succes in the former and varied success in the latter) the ethical issues of having a Nietzschean superman walking among us. Personally, I think that's ok because it's just not that movie - it's a play on the goofy tropes of superheroes, mostly Marvel superheroes like the Fantastic Four or the X-Men (and how do I know that? Sometimes I wonder), both of which mostly ignore the implications of superherodom for society at large in favor of inner turmoil and implications for immediate family.

Yep, Corwood, you're right. I would also add that it doesn't have the brainpower of BtVS. Joss has clearly wondered a lot about the issues surrounding being special by birth, and whether that makes one better, and if so what that means.

I do think that The Incredibles crossed the line of being a goofy play on the tropes with the repeated hammering of the point, but that's my read. Your (and Aimee's) points about the offending lines being in the mouths of non-protagonists are good ones, but I'm not convinced. The line from Dash resonated as a "truth from the mouths of babes" statement with me, and Syndrome's goal of making everyone super so no one would be was the genesis of the whole conflict. Having his goal be prefigured by Dash served to underscore that the writer felt that was a very important point.

Speaking of Dash, did they get in utero testing to know what his and Violet's superpowers would be before they named them? Even if Dash's manifested at birth, how would you tell? 5-second labor? Or do super families name the first boy "Jack" until he gets his powers, then the second boy "Jack-Jack," and so on?

I tell you, this movie raises a lot of questions.


Aims - Aug 31, 2005 9:54:44 am PDT #6988 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

"Dash" is short for "Dashiell" which maybe is just someone Brad Bird likes. IIRC.


Hayden - Aug 31, 2005 9:55:29 am PDT #6989 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Joss has clearly wondered a lot about the issues surrounding being special by birth, and whether that makes one better, and if so what that means.

Joss had quite a bit of time to delve into those issues, though.

I tell you, this movie raises a lot of questions.

It just makes me wonder whether my parents named me "Corwood Industries" knowing that I was destined to be a shadowy representative of an avant-garde musician or whether it just happened by chance.


Hayden - Aug 31, 2005 9:55:33 am PDT #6990 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I post twice 'cause I'm crizappy like that.


Aims - Aug 31, 2005 9:55:49 am PDT #6991 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I tell you, this movie raises a lot of questions.

Such as, "Why does my husband think I would be willing to put my just had a baby ass into spandex?"


Lee - Aug 31, 2005 9:55:59 am PDT #6992 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I just assumed it was a nickname.


Kathy A - Aug 31, 2005 9:56:50 am PDT #6993 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I think that Dash and Violet were named the same way that Remus Lupin was--Authorial Foreshadowing Run Amok.


Aims - Aug 31, 2005 9:57:34 am PDT #6994 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Violet?


Hayden - Aug 31, 2005 10:00:22 am PDT #6995 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

She's shrinking. Wait, that's not it.


Aims - Aug 31, 2005 10:00:50 am PDT #6996 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

::headdesk headdesk::

Cause she's shy.