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Buffy ,'First Date'


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flea - Aug 30, 2005 7:36:05 am PDT #6932 of 10002
information libertarian

Doesn't matter what color
No, that gets a 'nope,"
Be it pink, purple, or heliotrope.


Nutty - Aug 30, 2005 7:38:13 am PDT #6933 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

at the same time, it can be read as an indictment of politics of exclusion (superheroes are marginalized minorities)-- like The Iron Giant.

Well, there is "I am different and you exclude me, that isn't right" and then there is "I am Superior and you don't acknowedge that, that isn't right." The first, you'll get school assemblies about in the sixth grade. The second, you'll write papers about while studying Nietszche.

(As a side note, one of the most irritating things I've seen in college classroom discussions about minority/race/advantage/disadvantage is the people who trot out "I had freckles, and all the kids laughed at me!" as a form of discrimination. Mostly, it's a matter of people who grew up with no diversity around them, and thus totally unaware of any experience other than their own, but it makes my eyes roll like shades pulled too hard.)


bon bon - Aug 30, 2005 7:45:33 am PDT #6934 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Well, there is "I am different and you exclude me, that isn't right" and then there is "I am Superior and you don't acknowedge that, that isn't right." The first, you'll get school assemblies about in the sixth grade. The second, you'll write papers about while studying Nietszche.

Can you explain your second example?


Aims - Aug 30, 2005 8:01:10 am PDT #6935 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

But since the Incredible family's powers are special, they all turn out just great, even though their dad's an elitist prick.

Mr Incredible NEVER EVER said, "You can't be here, you aren't SPECIAL." He said, "Go home, you are a child and it's dangerous. This is my JOB." How is that being elitist? IIRC.


Aims - Aug 30, 2005 8:04:00 am PDT #6936 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Err, wasn't Jason Lee the voice of Syndrome?

Yes, he is.


§ ita § - Aug 30, 2005 8:20:13 am PDT #6937 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That kid totally needed to be shut down. Maybe Mr. Incredible didn't do it in the smoothest way possible (if he had, and Syndrome hadn't had the craxxy brewing, where would the story be), but he did do the right thing.


Aims - Aug 30, 2005 8:22:08 am PDT #6938 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And where were Syndrome's parents? Why is Mr Incredible blamed for their lack of teaching and love? Huh huh huh?


Jars - Aug 30, 2005 8:24:58 am PDT #6939 of 10002

I'm on Mr. Incredible's side on this one. The kid was annoying, and getting in the way. Plus he'd already done a bunch of stuff for him. And the kid was annoying.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 30, 2005 8:26:29 am PDT #6940 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Why is Mr Incredible balmed for their lack of teaching and love? Huh huh huh?

Because his suit was chafing?

sorry, but the typo made me laugh and laugh at the image it invoked


DebetEsse - Aug 30, 2005 8:28:32 am PDT #6941 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Also, backing up Jars, it is not unlike a kid in a plastic fireman's hat trying to tag along on a run with an actual firefighter.