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DebetEsse - Aug 23, 2005 6:00:22 am PDT #6637 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

My one real issue with the trailers (apart from my standing "Hermione's too pretty!") is that I don't think Molly would let Ron have hair that shaggy.


Gris - Aug 23, 2005 6:18:01 am PDT #6638 of 10002
Hey. New board.

"Hermione's too pretty!"

A reasonable realism complaint that I refuse to care about!

ETA: Also, I don't worry too much about the movie not getting little details right from the books. I'm convinced that 4, 5, 6, and probably 7 will have to be adapted from the books more heavily than the first three, for time concerns if nothing else, and plan to enjoy them as fun rides, not direct echoes of the increasingly complicated and literary series.


DebetEsse - Aug 23, 2005 6:21:30 am PDT #6639 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Well, it's part of a larger issue I have with ther Hermione in the movies. Being not dissimilar to book-Hermione, I object to the de-nerding of the character (also to Emma's dislike for the character in the original and the subsequent (though I won't fully blame it on that) re-writing of the character).


Volans - Aug 23, 2005 6:22:19 am PDT #6640 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Hermione, esp. that one shot of her in the trailer, is going to be sending guys to their bunks.

So how does the Joss/Jewel pairing fit on Jesse's Parity Scale?


Gris - Aug 23, 2005 6:25:47 am PDT #6641 of 10002
Hey. New board.

Is she really all that de-nerded? She still takes bunches of classes, and has that long, totally ignored conversation about Arithmancy, and tries to stop them from breaking the rules most of the time. Her nerdiness isn't thrown in your face as much as it is in the books, but the movies are not really great at the character development - part of that whole cutting for time thing, since the kids sitting in the library studying for hours at a time while Ron and Harry go slowly insane can be done in 4 paragraphs in the book but would require actual screen time in a movie.

I've always thought of it more as the movies focusing less on the school aspect of the stories entirely, which is, in my opinion, the obvious place to cut stuff. So it never bothered me.

And I haven't read cast interviews with Emma, so I don't know about that bit.


DebetEsse - Aug 23, 2005 6:29:18 am PDT #6642 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Book Hermione would never ever have punched Draco. (This is my "Girls can be strong characters without physical violence being involved" rant)

That, along with the being awfully pretty and stylishly dressed.

It was in the Philosophers Stone stuff that I got the Emma doesn't like Hermione thing. Don't have a specific cite, though.


Lee - Aug 23, 2005 6:30:48 am PDT #6643 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Book Hermione would never ever have punched Draco. (This is my "Girls can be strong characters without physical violence being involved" rant)

Actually, she smacked him in book 3, which I just finished rereading.


Kate P. - Aug 23, 2005 6:37:16 am PDT #6644 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

"Girls can be strong characters without physical violence being involved"

And boys!

It doesn't bother me at all that Hermione is prettier in the movies than she (supposedly) is in the books. Actually, I've never gotten the sense from the books that she's supposed to be not good-looking. Apart from her teeth, which she fixes pretty handily in book 4, what about her is mentioned as being unattractive? And anyway, was there ever any chance that the producers and directors would cast someone in the role who isn't pretty?


Gris - Aug 23, 2005 6:41:26 am PDT #6645 of 10002
Hey. New board.

Apart from her teeth, which she fixes pretty handily in book 4, what about her is mentioned as being unattractive?

Her very bushy hair is mentioned over and over again, throughout the books. She's never described as pretty, though she's also never described as ugly, really.

I tend to follow the argument that this is partly because Harry isn't attracted to her, and the book takes his perspective on appearances. I've always imagined her character to be fairly pretty, though Emma Watson gorgeous is another thing. There's only about 5 high school students in the world as pretty as her, so Hermione probably wouldn't be one of them, but that's how movies work.


DebetEsse - Aug 23, 2005 6:43:48 am PDT #6646 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I guess I need to re-read, then. Do you recall the situation, Perkins?

Of course, Kate. I think of it as somewhat of a post-Buffy thing that that's the mold for a "strong girl".

I got the not so pretty (really, mostly taken in a "mostly not so concerned with or spending time on looking pretty") impression from the supposed transformation of the ball (which would be far less striking for someone who did themselves up on a regular basis) and other things I can't remember right now (I know, not so helpful)