Why couldn't Giles have shackles like any self-respecting bachelor?

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


erikaj - Jul 25, 2005 2:23:29 pm PDT #6061 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Wow... did you grow up without a television?


Kalshane - Jul 25, 2005 2:28:08 pm PDT #6062 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Had a TV, just spent most of the TV-watching time watching cartoons or PBS. (I loved 3-2-1 Contact, Mr. Rogers and Nova as a kid.)


Kathy A - Jul 25, 2005 2:31:22 pm PDT #6063 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

National Geographic specials rocked. Loved the polar bears one, where the cameraman is inside the cage and the polar bears start rocking it--scary stuff!


Vonnie K - Jul 25, 2005 2:32:53 pm PDT #6064 of 10002
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Well, I think Footloose and Dirty Dancing are huge fun but skippable, but Say Anything? OH MY GOD.

I was talking elsewhere a few days ago about how Lloyd Dobler ruined me for all other men, and someone in response linked to the first few pages of the book called "Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs", which is the beginning of an essay on Say Anything. Excerpt:

It appears that countless women born between 1965 and 1978 are in love with John Cusack. I cannot fathom how he isn't the number one box office star in America, because very straight girl I know would sell her soul to share a milkshake with that motherfucker. For upwardly mobile women in their twenties and thirties, John Cusack is the neo-Elvis. But here's what none of these upwardly mobile women don't realize: They don't love John Cusack. They love Lloyd Dobler. When they see Mr. Cusack, they are still seeing the optimistic, charmingly loquacious teenager he played in Say Anything, a movie that came out more than a decade ago. That's the guy they think he is; when Cusack played Eddie Thomas in America's Sweetheart or the sensitive hitman in Grosse Pointe Blank, all his female fans knew he was only acting... but they assume that when the camera stopped rolling, he went back to his genuine self... which was someone like Lloyd Dobler... which was, in fact, someone who is Lloyd Dobler, and someone who continues to have a storybook romance with Diane Court (or with Ione Skye, depending on how you look at it.)

It's exaggerated, but not without a grain of truth, I think. Plus, you need to watch it to understand the context when someone throws a hissyfit on the board and everyone urges him/her to Doblerize.


DavidS - Jul 25, 2005 2:36:39 pm PDT #6065 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I have often stated that Lloyd Dobler is one of the very few positive images of masculinity after feminism that appeals to both men and women.


Jesse - Jul 25, 2005 2:38:10 pm PDT #6066 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think it's the combination of Lloyd Dobler and Jake Ryan that kills it for any real-life guy.


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2005 2:38:41 pm PDT #6067 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Who's Jake Ryan, again?


Jesse - Jul 25, 2005 2:40:44 pm PDT #6068 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Sixteen Candles. The hot (HOT) older, popular guy with the pretty, popular girlfriend actually does like the quirky girl with no friends. And he gets her a birthday cake when everyone in her family forgot.


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2005 2:41:54 pm PDT #6069 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

::googles::

Okay, he's kinda hot.


Jesse - Jul 25, 2005 2:44:01 pm PDT #6070 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Guh. He was like the second-rate Matt Dillon, but I don't care. He's also the hot older guy in Mermaids. And now he's a freaking carpenter.