Always gonna like the Untouchables(act surprised!) As a writer of dialogue, I admire Mamet. As a member of my gender, I think he's an asshole. Call it the Ellroy Exemption.
Xander: I still don't get why we came here to get info about a killer snot monster. Giles: Because it's a killer snot monster from outer space. I did not say that.
'Never Leave Me'
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erikaj - Jul 11, 2005 8:45:55 am PDT #5524 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!
Fay - Jul 11, 2005 8:46:33 am PDT #5525 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
That's not Mamet, but Neil LaBute.
Damn. So it is.
You folks don't like Bash, then? I really rated it.
DavidS - Jul 11, 2005 8:47:02 am PDT #5526 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
As a member of my gender, I think he's an asshole.
::contemplating Mamet as a member of erika's gender. Becomes conscious of the implications of "member" in this context...::
erikaj - Jul 11, 2005 8:55:51 am PDT #5527 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!
Speaking of...pedantic much? I meant to write "As a writer, I admire him. When I speak as a member of womankind, I think he is an asshole. But a talented asshole." I've got no current designs on Mamet's member, but I've not seen "Oleanna" yet so that could totally change. Much like the weather in Chicago. Damn, Hec, why come you got to harsh on my sloppy syntax, huh? If we were talking, you wouldn't get to do that...you set the bar too high, my friend. I'd do a little surgery on Mr. "In The Company of Men" though.
DavidS - Jul 11, 2005 8:57:52 am PDT #5528 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
If we were talking, you wouldn't get to do that
I might think it though. Not in a critical way, but an enjoying-the-accidental-implications way.
Steph L. - Jul 11, 2005 8:58:21 am PDT #5529 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
If we were talking, you wouldn't get to do that...
Hell yeah he would!
t edit Heh. x-posty.
DavidS - Jul 11, 2005 8:59:31 am PDT #5530 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Hell yeah he would!
Yeah, okay, probably I would. But again - not in a pedantic way.
Taking the piss, though? Yeah. Me.
erikaj - Jul 11, 2005 9:01:45 am PDT #5531 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!
I think Mamet as a woman might be a lot like...well, me.(Not that I'm as brilliant) But my most common note in writing group was about my expletives, and he seems to enjoy a good caper, too.ETA: No fair! Mocking the afflicted... I'm saying this for no reason, mind you, but my hair grows really fast.
JZ - Jul 11, 2005 9:09:42 am PDT #5532 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Mamet's very hit or miss for me. His flicks are clever and dense, but often emotionally frigid.
This, exactly, plus all the gender-issues discomfort and the unpleasantness of having to consciously turn off the gender-issues part of my brain in order to let the rest of my brain become fully engaged.
I know, I know, Neil LaBute, ptui, but I have such a big irrational crazy love for Nurse Betty. I heart Renee Zellweger and Morgan Freeman to little bitty bits in it, Tia Texada is marvelous, and Crispin Glover goes way outside his normal range and plays someone demonstrably not Crispin Glover. I realize that between the LaBute and the Zellweger this movie is probably dead, DEAD to most of the Buffistas and that it may in fact be just me and P-C against the rest of the world, but I love it anyway.
::wraps arms protectively around "Nurse Betty," glares pugnaciously at the entire rest of the world::
erikaj - Jul 11, 2005 9:16:57 am PDT #5533 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!
I liked it, too. Although in an uncomfortable way...I'm in fandoms, too, you know. And if I met Secor, I'd scream out "Timmy!" I know I would... (I do actually know he's not Tim, though) But Morgan Freeman as hitman...might as well send me an invitation to see that movie. Hitmen are good times around our house, though.