I loved that line. It made me tear up every time someone said it.
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Jessica - Jul 08, 2005 7:24:21 am PDT #5373 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
P.M. Marc - Jul 08, 2005 7:29:18 am PDT #5374 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I can understand the philosophical basis for what you're saying, ita. But it still pissed me off. But I don't like the "stiff upper lip, be a man, here are some Inspiring Words" school of childrearing anyhow.
I saw it more as "Things will suck and you'll be in a lot of pain, but it will get better, and don't think of this as pointless pain, but pain that makes you stronger and happier," but I could just be projecting Bruce/Batman's notions about saving Gotham onto his father's words. Of course, I think Bruce was doing the same thing, so at least we're on the same page.
Lyra Jane - Jul 08, 2005 8:00:55 am PDT #5375 of 10002
Up with the sun
Fair enough, and I'm willing to accept that the line might have worked on Bruce. So ... am I allowed to just think Inspiring Words are really fucking cheesy?
It would have distracted me from my terror, but mostly as I wondered what the hell was wrong with my parents.
Hee. I would have started ranting at whoever said it, I think. "MY BACK hurts and my LEG hurts and I'm HUNGRY and there were a zillion BATS and MY DAD IS TRYING TO USE THIS AS A TEACHABLE MOMENT."
And yes, I would have said this in asscaps.
beekaytee - Jul 08, 2005 8:11:48 am PDT #5376 of 10002
Compassionately intolerant
Believe me, deep in your bones lives a need you never knew existed: You must cuddle with a baby penguin. At once.
I can't wait to see the Peng'ns. And this will certainly be the reaction of everyone in the audience...except this former penguin wrangler. After taking care of the penguins at Seaworld, I can say that one of the primary benefits of the movie (besides the killer cutitude) is that it wasn't created in smell-o-rama. Bless their poopy little butts.
Still, can't wait to see 'em.
Jessica - Jul 08, 2005 8:16:30 am PDT #5377 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Believe me, deep in your bones lives a need you never knew existed: You must cuddle with a baby penguin. At once.
Please. With clips like this at my fingertips? I am well aware of my need for baby penguins in my life.
P.M. Marc - Jul 08, 2005 8:20:56 am PDT #5378 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
So ... am I allowed to just think Inspiring Words are really fucking cheesy?
Totally.
Sigh. I want to see the movie again. I think it's one of the ones where I'll get more out of each viewing, like an especially good episode of Angel or something, because now I'm smiling at the notion of Bruce as a naive cynic. Or just an optimistic one. For all that he's deeply, deeply wounded and cautious, there's still a childlike faith in essential goodness there. He wants to believe. Which is why a cheeseball line from a parent totally works on him and with him. He has hope, but it's all external, not internal.
It's probably a good sign for the movie that I'm having a hard time separating Movie!Bruce from Comics!Bruce, because the train of thought above was about to go into "and that's why Event X in Book Y has him so fucked up." before I realized that they're unmixy things.
Have I mentioned that that's my Bruce?
sumi - Jul 08, 2005 8:50:30 am PDT #5379 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!
I'm (hoping) to see the movie on IMAX this weekend. I can't wait to see the scenes where you get people's fear-toxin hallucinations and also, that scene where the bats are flying down the stairwell and then Bats swoops down after them.
beathen - Jul 08, 2005 9:04:29 am PDT #5380 of 10002
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
Those scenes are pretty cool on the IMAX sumi. I also liked when Bruce was first exploring the cave and the bats were flying all around .
§ ita § - Jul 08, 2005 9:05:35 am PDT #5381 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The epiphany moment? Took my breath away.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 08, 2005 9:07:09 am PDT #5382 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
In pretty much entirely unrelated info, and also (bonus!) on topic, Anne Hathaway has a role in that movie where Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal are lovers, which I'm certain will have major Buffista attendance.
Oh wow, Michelle Williams plays Ledger's wife in that movie - I didn't realize until now.
Always the fag hag, never the bride.