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Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Volans - Jul 03, 2005 9:09:38 pm PDT #5147 of 10002
move out and draw fire

I think the tradition of Brit villains dates to Die Hard and how AWESOME Alan Rickman was in it, so you can blame him.

I was going to say it came from all the locally-cast Empire officers in Star Wars, but thinking of Alan Rickman is more enjoyable.

BUT YOU RULE THE WORLD!!!!!

But you did it first!!!

God I love Eddie Izzard. How many other stand-up comedians work General Lafayette in there?

I think Brits = Bad Guys because they are different, but not *really* different. If you cast an African or an Asian as the bad guy, and your good guys are whitebread Americans, then the antagonism is assumed to include a racial subtext. If you therefore need to cast an antagonist who looks like your protagonist, you've got more subtle differences to play with based on accent and bearing and such.

And when you're talking subtle acting, British-trained actors are your folks.

Either that, or it's just gross stereotyping.


Fay - Jul 03, 2005 9:16:52 pm PDT #5148 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

You're suave, sophisticated, smart, and scary as shit (in our demented, retarded minds); thus, you make great villains.

...to be fair, this is what I base my behaviour management technique on, whilst teaching. Huh.

(Well, that and threatening to give people detention/giving stickers to the good kids.)


Gris - Jul 03, 2005 9:18:23 pm PDT #5149 of 10002
Hey. New board.

...to be fair, this is what I base my behaviour management technique on, whilst teaching. Huh.

Honestly, it's a description I'd give to most buffistas. But the English accent carries it at a gut level.


Lee - Jul 03, 2005 9:46:03 pm PDT #5150 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I saw Mad Hot Ballroom tonight, which was a lot of fun.

Also, as devastingly cute as the March of the Penguin trailer Jessica "Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video" May 24, 2005 7:16:24 pm PDT is on the computer, it is a gazillion times more so on a movie screen.


DebetEsse - Jul 03, 2005 10:13:52 pm PDT #5151 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Word, Perkins. It was before our Howl's.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2005 10:20:01 pm PDT #5152 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd say Brit villainy dates rather to the early Bond films. Blofeld and Dr. No and Goldfinger and the like.

I think that deciding from British movies that British guys are the bad guys shows a certain lack of perception and imagination. Unless Felix Leiter was the only hero.


Jim - Jul 03, 2005 10:37:16 pm PDT #5153 of 10002
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Plus Blofeld and Goldfinger are Middle-European (which is code for Jewish, natch) and Dr No is Chinese.


P.M. Marc - Jul 03, 2005 11:49:38 pm PDT #5154 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

(Well, that and threatening to give people detention/giving stickers to the good kids.)

Not to mention threatening them with stinkfoot, missy.

PS, come to Seattle. We promise not to cage you unless asked. Anyhow, it's not like Pete will actually LET Jilli have an arc welder...

I think movies should take their cue from South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut and make all the baddies Canadian. Also, they should all be shirtless, and played by Paul Gross and/or CKR. Or Nicholas Lea.

Or what's his face, from ENG. Can he pull off shirtless? Hmm. Well, he can be clothed.

(Welcome to "Plei had coffee at 11:30 and is now officially loopy as hell.")


Fay - Jul 04, 2005 12:53:18 am PDT #5155 of 10002
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

...I've actually been looking at the cost of flights to Seattle. Um. Just out of curiosity, you know?

Um.


Volans - Jul 04, 2005 3:20:50 am PDT #5156 of 10002
move out and draw fire

they should all be shirtless, and played by Paul Gross and/or CKR

I second this motion.