You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


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Polter-Cow - Jun 16, 2005 11:57:38 am PDT #4239 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Hee. My flist (okay, one person) has given me another stupid review, from a person who doesn't like that the movie is serious and feels real:

Bale’s intensity — he badgers the corrupted with screams as piercing as a bat’s, only at a lower pitch — seems sweetly misplaced. Let’s not forget that what we’re talking about is a cartoon.

Or, you know, a comic. Which is a different medium.

He wants us to believe that this Batman is as tuned in to social fears as Michael Moore in Bowling for Columbine, but Nolan’s insistence that what Batman does really matters is the funniest thing about the movie.

This seems to imply that Nolan has some gun control agenda, when of course Batman has had a stringent no guns policy...forever. And yes, let's have a superhero movie that presents the role of the superhero as completely unimportant and superfluous. It may have been done, but that's not Batman. Batman does matter, that's the point.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 16, 2005 12:19:47 pm PDT #4240 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So he wants a super hero who spends years training in various skills and disciplines and dresses up like a flying rodent just because? Even the Adam West stories worked on the principle that the crimefighting mattered.


Polter-Cow - Jun 16, 2005 12:30:20 pm PDT #4241 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Maybe she knows Batman thinks it matters, but she thinks it's funny that it actually does. That he actually does make a difference. Ha ha, superheroes making a difference.


§ ita § - Jun 16, 2005 8:24:29 pm PDT #4242 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's my Batman. That's my motherfucking Batman.


Gris - Jun 16, 2005 8:25:51 pm PDT #4243 of 10002
Hey. New board.

You are all taunters.

I will see it in less than 24 hours, at least.


Eddie - Jun 16, 2005 8:26:10 pm PDT #4244 of 10002
Your tag here.

I think ita liked the movie. Good, no? I just wish I had the IMAX experience.


§ ita § - Jun 16, 2005 8:27:16 pm PDT #4245 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Saw it in IMAX, so there was only the one trailer, for Willy Wonka, which my moviemate insists we also see in IMAX, but it might make me cry.

God, I really enjoyed that. I need to go again, and I need to buy the DVDs ASAP.

That's my boy!


Gris - Jun 16, 2005 8:29:08 pm PDT #4246 of 10002
Hey. New board.

WOOT

Looking forward to the IMAX, though the lack of Serenity Trailer is a bit saddening. Since I already saw the movie, though, I think I can deal.


Eddie - Jun 16, 2005 8:35:43 pm PDT #4247 of 10002
Your tag here.

I've been trying to pinpoint what it is about the Batman movie that affects me so (and apparently many others).

One, the casting was brilliant, especially Gordon and Alfred. I could buy into the motivations and the history. It wasn't quite as fantastical as the Burtonverse; more realistic / logical. The movie didn't strike me as formulaic as other summer fare. It has its fun moments.

I guess it comes down to a lot of little things done right. I just hope to gods they keep the cast for the next two... well, Ms. Holmes NSM, but she did lighten things up a bit, I'll grant her that much.


Mr. Broom - Jun 16, 2005 10:55:05 pm PDT #4248 of 10002
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Are we certain we're getting sequels? Is anything optioned? Not that I think we've seen the last Batman movie ever, just that there's nothing stopping anyone from making yet another continuity a few years down the road, one independent from this or any other. That can happen with your more iconic characters.