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'The Killer In Me'


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Jessica - Jun 07, 2005 12:06:20 pm PDT #3835 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's not so much that it doesn't look like NY, and more that it looks really explicitly like Chicago. (Which I don't think is intentional, just that filmmakers tend to assume that audiences won't recognize places unless they're told to, which is why so many movies that take place in NYC have the CN tower in them.)

If Gotham is explicitly any real-world city, it's NYC. If it's not NYC, then it shouldn't be any real place.

(And I said it was irrational. So there.)


Nutty - Jun 07, 2005 12:10:06 pm PDT #3836 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

filmmakers tend to assume that audiences won't recognize places unless they're told to

Filmmakers are really, really stupid. I would be okay if they filmed in Chicago and tricked it up to look like New York; I would be marginally okay if they avowedly decided that Gotham is not New York at all, but some otherworldly city of baroque statuary (as Tim Burton did); but just cutting and pasting together footage from two different cities is called L-A-Z-Y.

Also, foolish. If you're going to tell a whopper, make it an elegant one, you know? Don't just slap "Rockaway" on the front of an Inner Loop train. Yes, Sam Raimi, I am talking to YOU.


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2005 12:10:17 pm PDT #3837 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, I'm pretty sure I'll never know the difference, so I'm okay.


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2005 12:13:17 pm PDT #3838 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would be marginally okay if they avowedly decided that Gotham is not New York at all

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't this already been done? Does Gotham have a Statue of Liberty, or a Rockefeller Plaza, or an Empire State Building? Has it been being drawn like NYC this whole time and I'm so metropolis(har) impaired it's gone over my head?


Aims - Jun 07, 2005 12:13:49 pm PDT #3839 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I can see Nutty's point. Specially if you know the geography, it's irrtating. Watching Collateral the other night I knew right where Jamie Foxx was when he stole the cell phone and was running down the street. And it ain't nowhere near the parking garage he ended up on top of.

But, if I don't know, I don't care.

BATMOBILE!!


tommyrot - Jun 07, 2005 12:14:45 pm PDT #3840 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

but just cutting and pasting together footage from two different cities is called L-A-Z-Y.

I disagree. Most movies are not really about what stuff is in what city.


Jesse - Jun 07, 2005 12:14:56 pm PDT #3841 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I really only care if they call it New York and it's not New York.


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2005 12:16:21 pm PDT #3842 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I really only care if they call it New York and it's not New York.

I'm guessing that Rumble In The Bronx doesn't slip by on any technicalities, huh?

I don't care if they call it city A and it's not city A unless they do something dramatic (general geography, or city B's notable landmarks).


bon bon - Jun 07, 2005 12:17:27 pm PDT #3843 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

but just cutting and pasting together footage from two different cities is called L-A-Z-Y.

I disagree, especially given the money involved.


Kathy A - Jun 07, 2005 12:18:57 pm PDT #3844 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

A few months back, I saw the first part of the Little House on the Prairie miniseries that was on ABC. They lost me when they were claiming to be in Kansas, and the Rockies were clearly visible in the background.

Yeah, right.