That's why my church uses grape juice. They don't care about booze (Methodists), but they want everyone to be able to participate.
That's completely honorable in my book. Some Friends' meetings also have a witness against alcohol -- not because Jesus didn't drink it, but because drinking it sets a bad example for other people, people who might be hurt by it.
It's the claim that Jesus was a teetotaler that gets up my nose.
Every Reform synagogue I've ever been too has offered both wine and grape juice. (Of course, the wine being Manichevitz, it can be hard to tell the difference.)
Naah, the grape juice taste like grapes, as opposed to the Manishevitz, which tastes like Robitussin.
(There are good kosher wines out there. Manishevitz ain't one of them)
Edit: I have yet to see Dogma, but desperately want to. My thoroughly agnostic dad walked out of it, not because he was offended, but because he was bored. I think Ben Affleck irks him.
Dogma is a very Catholic movie, which may or may not have anything at all to do with why a non-Catholic might or might not like it, but as an ex-Catholic, there's a world/God-view in it that appeals to me for reasons that I can't put my finger on beyond just a common frame of reference.
but as an ex-Catholic, there's a world/God-view in it that appeals to me for reasons that I can't put my finger on beyond just a common frame of reference.
My
extremely
lapsed-Catholic dad thought it was a fabulous movie. Of course, he thinks that
The Prophecy
is the best movie about The Church ever, and keeps borrowing my DVD of it.
The Prophecy
is cool because it has Viggo Mortenson playing Satan. It's not many people who can out-creepy Christopher Walken.
My mom is a practicing Catholic who stole my copy of
Dogma
and keeps a Buddy Christ on the knickknack shelf above the kitchen sink.
This is also the church that offers rice cakes instead of bread for people with wheat or gluten allergies.
That is so awesome!
My favorite Satan is the sad Saddam-fucking Satan of the
South Park
movie.
A friend and I made a pilgrimage to Red Bank, NJ one time (we didn't have the money to take a
real
spring break, so we road-tripped to the Quik-Stop). While we were driving, we saw the church they must have used for some exterior shots at the end and almost crashed the car. (It may not have been, as it didn't have the lawn where Alanis was doing cartwheels, but the windows were identical.)
ETA:
My favorite Satan is the sad Saddam-fucking Satan of the South Park movie.
I
begged
my little brother to sing the song "Up There" for the school talent show. He would have brought down the house.
That is so awesome!
I'm surprised your church doesn't do that.
Dear boy, insent.
eta: I'm fairly sure my
parish
would do it, but a priest on the East coast got reprimanded for doing it a few months back so it doesn't look like (a) the big-c Church is gonna be cool with it and (b) my parish is likely to try it anytime soon. We already have the spooky conservabot bisohop from Ohio (sorry, Tep) breathing down our necks, so we're trying to lay low and be stealth progressives.
Though I have a feeling there may be a blow-up with the new bishop at some point; I just don't know if the staff and the parishioners' council have decided which issues they're willing to ask us all to go to the mat on.