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Buffista Movies 4: Straight to Video  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Polter-Cow - May 19, 2005 7:29:58 pm PDT #3033 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith is actually really good. No, seriously. I liked the first two prequels more than most people, but this one is definitely better. It's much more focused.

I realized that the prequels were telling a very different kind of story from the original trilogy. The original is a delightful space adventure centering around the battle between good and evil. These prequels are a less delightful space adventure centering around what good and evil actually are. There are themes at work here that maybe weren't as apparent in the first two prequels. This is the story of why Jedi are Jedi and why Sith are Sith. This is the story of who's right and who's wrong and who gets to decide.

I think Anakin's transformation into Vader is very, very interesting. I won't go into details, of course, because I don't do that sort of thing, but the Anakin/Palpatine scenes are the heart, dark as it is, of the film, and they don't disappoint. His turn to the Dark Side involves a lot of character traits we saw in Attack of the Clones, and I can't even remember if anything important happened in The Phantom Menace anymore. I can see how some seeds were planted in that first prequel, but so much seemed to be a distraction. The power struggle between the Jedi Council and the Senate, though, I think that's been in play since the beginning, and it finally pays off here.

I found the power struggle stuff fascinating in this installment, and people have of course wondered if it was some sort of statement on the Bush administration. These people forget that Lucas conceived this whole business in the seventies. The fact that it's disturbingly accurate is a testament to...humanity. Go us. We rule. At sucking.

Yes, there is some clunky dialogue and wooden acting. Yes, there is a groanworthy scene or two. Yes, Lucas can't seem to write a scene in which more than two people converse. But the flaws aren't enough to overshadow the fact that this is one of the deepest, most complex, and most psychologically fascinating Star Wars installments there is. If you were burned by the first two prequels, or you avoided them because others had been burned, I urge you to see this one anyway. It's a great little tale of a good Jedi gone bad, a good world gone haywire, good intentions gone all bajiggity.


Ailleann - May 19, 2005 7:51:50 pm PDT #3034 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

P-C is me, only with much better words.

Also, sooper seekrit message to P-C: Are you in Ann Arbor? Cause I'm in Bowling Green, just across the border. :)


Polter-Cow - May 19, 2005 7:58:58 pm PDT #3035 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Sooper seekrit message to Aileann: Yes! I am! Come visit! Or something.


Gandalfe - May 19, 2005 9:08:10 pm PDT #3036 of 10002
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

These people forget that Lucas conceived this whole business in the seventies.

There have been changes since the original conception, and we really can't say for sure what those were (*cough* mitichloridians *cough*). However, I think it's safe to say that the plan for THIS one was in place when he made SW:TPM, which was . . . . 1999, before Bush took office.


Jessica - May 20, 2005 4:08:03 am PDT #3037 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The general outline of the plot, yes.

That one explicit line of dialogue? I really, really doubt it.


Kalshane - May 20, 2005 6:02:49 am PDT #3038 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

(*cough* mitichloridians *cough*).

A friend of mine who was a huge Star Wars fan until the first two prequels caused him to curse Lucas' name for ever and ever, said according to interviews he's read Lucas was saying the Force was caused by "space bugs" for a long time and was apparently where one of the book authors got the idea of bad guys who were immune to the Force.

So apparently George's insanity isn't as recent a thing as we thought.


Lilty Cash - May 20, 2005 6:24:58 am PDT #3039 of 10002
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

I saw RotS last night. I don't know if I thought it was as "Tits!" as the young lads leaving when I got there, but I liked it better than the first two.

For me, the best part was still when the title came up and the music started.


Polter-Cow - May 20, 2005 6:26:18 am PDT #3040 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

As the Lucasfilm logo faded away, someone in the audience did the Chewbacca...thing.


Kalshane - May 20, 2005 6:31:42 am PDT #3041 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I don't know if I thought it was as "Tits!" as the young lads leaving when I got there

I hate that expression. I don't know why. That, "da bomb" and "owned" just really annoy me for some reason.

As the Lucasfilm logo faded away, someone in the audience did the Chewbacca...thing.

This makes me laugh.


Polter-Cow - May 20, 2005 6:36:02 am PDT #3042 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Behind us were three sub-thirteen-year-old boys dressed in Jedi robes.