Did I just miss discussion of the new Batman trailer or could it be I'm the first to squee over it? Cuz, good!
(here's a direct link to the fullscreen version, if you want to avoid iTunes redirection)
But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. And you found me broken. It's hard for you.
River ,'Safe'
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Gris - Apr 27, 2005 4:58:29 pm PDT #2262 of 10002
Hey. New board.
Steph L. - Apr 27, 2005 5:04:05 pm PDT #2263 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Dear sweet mother of god. A little more than 6 1/2 weeks away, right?
I really dig Christian Bale as Batman, if I haven't already said so a gazillion times. And the Batmobile is so. fucking. cool.
Gris - Apr 27, 2005 6:32:35 pm PDT #2264 of 10002
Hey. New board.
Honestly, I was worried after the last trailer. Because I didn't really dig the Qui Gon esque training sequences. But this one totally gives me a happy.
And yeah, CB is the PERFECT batman.
Jessica - Apr 27, 2005 7:19:56 pm PDT #2265 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Because I didn't really dig the Qui Gon esque training sequences.
Nepal does look suspiciously like Tatooine in some of those shots.
But Christian Bale is so perfectly cast. Yum.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 27, 2005 7:21:39 pm PDT #2266 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
And yeah, CB is the PERFECT batman.
I think the "bat" part of that sentence isn't really necessary.
§ ita § - Apr 27, 2005 8:21:26 pm PDT #2267 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Oh, my. It's not quite "Does it come in black?" but I feel I must have been a very good girl to be getting HHGttG, Batman and Serenity in one year. It almost adds up to a hobbit movie.
P.M. Marc - Apr 27, 2005 9:41:38 pm PDT #2268 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
I figure I've been good to get Batman coming out close enough to my birthday for me to be able to beg a babysitter, and for Serenity to have been pushed back to later in the year.
Now if I could find a way to see HHGttG in a theatre, I think I'd start believing in Santa Claus
Nutty - Apr 28, 2005 4:01:13 am PDT #2269 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
The characters demonstrate varying degrees of honor & loyalty, and they all die brutally for it.
Well, but within the framework of an honor society, as posited in Reservoir Dogs or in your basic Hong Kong gangster movie, death or even painful death isn't punishment. The point isn't that the cop dies; that's a given from the first frame of the movie. The point is that, before he dies, he confesses his betrayal. At that point in the film, Harvey Keitel is arguably mortally wounded; help on the way; the cop could just keep his mouth shut for another 10 minutes and die with his secret or survive with it; but honesty is too important in that situation.
In Rififi, another honor/gangster society of a sort, Tony le Stephanois knows he's walking into death to rescue Jo's son; but he's the one who put the boy into danger, so he'll get the boy out again even at the cost of his life. Not because he's an "innocent child" but because Tony FIxes Problems, and to do any less would make him a lesser man.
I think horror movies work out various anxieties about body horror: disfigurement, dismemberment, the undead, transformation, etc. Morality isn't the point since they're passion plays designed to jerk the lizard brain around in the uncanny valley.
Do you think the rules are different for written horror vs. movie horror, then? Because I can posit a couple of instances of written horror in which body-fear is not a major factor. I do think that most horror gets its surface effect from, as you say, jerking around the lizard brain, but that jerking around can involve sensations like loneliness, sorrow, isolation, and generalized anxiety, too. Actually I find the horror that stays with me most connects to an emotion in addition to your basic draw-back-from-a-snake reactivity; a shock is just a shock, but feelings involve me.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 28, 2005 5:45:18 am PDT #2270 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I have to agree - movies like The Haunting of Julia don't strike me as utilizing body fear, but they're definitely horror. There's a subtle side to the genre as well as a gross one, though the slasher flicks and splatter movies are the ones that are most prominently featured.
Frankenbuddha - Apr 28, 2005 5:53:05 am PDT #2271 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I've seen the argument that any story about death is by it's very nature about body horror since it's about our mortality, but I think it depends on whether death is central horror or just a mitigating factor.
Big example here - "The Haunting of Hill House" and the first movie version (decidedly NOT the craptastic remake - thanks Jan for wasting a nearly perfect cast for a remake of this story on that steaming pile o' shite), where the potential for ghosts is there, and the protagonist (decidedly not a heroine) dies, but the source of horror there was definitively lonliness & the desire to belong someplace/anyplace, with a nice side helping of losing one's grip on reality.