Sin City has a lot of trappings of a noir, but I don't know. It felt off to me as a noir. (Yeah, yeah, my own eloquence blinds me.) It's not the theme that felt wrong, but rather the style. It's just... way too exuberant for a noir. Noir anti-heroes are not supposed to show that much sheer glee as they are getting crushed body and soul. The dark revel in all that luridness struck me more of of a Sam Fuller territory than a Jacques Tourneur. I expect a bit more restraint in my noir--rage should be bottled up for explosion at appropriate times, the vista should be more muted and bleak; More austerity, less operatic grandeur, etc.
Also, you can tell it's not gonna have a happy ending when the main guy's all bumpy.
Tara ,'First Date'
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Vonnie K - Apr 08, 2005 6:27:18 am PDT #1574 of 10002
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 6:44:09 am PDT #1575 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
God, I dislike Bruce Willis. He's no Ford.
As much as I adore H2G2, I totally see where there might not be a blockbuster level of appeal.
Scrappy - Apr 08, 2005 6:47:52 am PDT #1576 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
He makes crappy choices, but I think he is as good an actor. Check out In Country or Nobody's Fool.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 08, 2005 6:52:51 am PDT #1577 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
The latter and Pulp Fiction make me think he's really much better as a character actor than he is as a leading man. I tend to be bored out of my skull at movies with "BRUCE WILLIS IN..." over the title.
§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 6:59:52 am PDT #1578 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
He makes crappy choices, but I think he is as good an actor. Check out In Country or Nobody's Fool.
I have 342 discs in my Netflix rental queue. I don't think he's in any of them. I may die having a horribly wrong impression of Bruce's work, but I'll just have to pay that price. Outside of Death Becomes Her and The Siege, he's poisoned all his movies for me. Sin City is something I'm seeing hoping to ignore him.
Kate P. - Apr 08, 2005 7:04:11 am PDT #1579 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
ita, did you not like him in 12 Monkeys, or Die Hard, or Hudson Hawk? Those three movies pretty much cemented my love of the Bruce.
Polter-Cow - Apr 08, 2005 7:04:52 am PDT #1580 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
The Fifth Element !
Sue - Apr 08, 2005 7:05:07 am PDT #1581 of 10002
hip deep in pie
To me, Bruce Willis either looks smug or he's got his serious "Smell the fart" face on. The only time I didn't dislike him was The Sixth Sense.
§ ita § - Apr 08, 2005 7:05:44 am PDT #1582 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
He didn't ruin 12 Monkeys for me, but I didn't like the movie much anyway. I sprained my eyes rolling them at Die Hard, and couldn't make it all the way through Hudson Hawk.
Connie Neil - Apr 08, 2005 7:06:07 am PDT #1583 of 10002
brillig
The Fifth Element !
"Anybody else want to negotiate?"
"Where did you learn to do that!"
"I wonder."