Ha ha ha wow, that's really interesting. I never thought of Spike as taking Cordelia's role.
Yes. Lucky for you, people may be in danger.
Buffy ,'Him'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Polter-Cow - Jan 25, 2013 10:00:01 am PST #9808 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
brenda m - Jan 25, 2013 10:58:36 am PST #9809 of 10458
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I think Joss was passionate that I would not corrupt his theme, which was basically trying to find a metaphor for all of the problems you encounter during adolescence. Vampires stood in for those problems and I think I endangered that theme by being popular.
But it strikes me that one of the key challenges of adolescence is precisely that dangerous and scary and evil things are popular.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 25, 2013 12:10:19 pm PST #9810 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Ha ha ha wow, that's really interesting. I never thought of Spike as taking Cordelia's role.
Really? Until he started banging Buffy in Season 6 that was pretty clearly his role to me.
Cass - Jan 25, 2013 12:38:27 pm PST #9811 of 10458
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
But it strikes me that one of the key challenges of adolescence is precisely that dangerous and scary and evil things are popular.
Things look shiny and then cause harm.
DavidS - Jan 25, 2013 2:23:31 pm PST #9812 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I never thought of Spike as taking Cordelia's role.
He was brought on to Angel to do the same thing. But Illyria did it better.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 25, 2013 6:23:43 pm PST #9813 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Illyria had the benefit of replacing an annoying character with an awesome one rather than the reverse.
§ ita § - Jan 25, 2013 6:35:51 pm PST #9814 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The way things ended aside, Spike was not a downgrade for me when he moved into Sunnydale. That was a gradual process.
Then again, I liked Illyria too, so there's that.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 26, 2013 6:27:29 am PST #9815 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I loved him as a villain in Season 2, but by the time he became their Cordelia surrogate in Buffy: the College Years I think the character was a shadow of his former self.
Polter-Cow - Feb 05, 2013 8:25:31 am PST #9816 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
R.I.P. Robin Sachs. So sad.
Steph L. - Feb 05, 2013 8:28:36 am PST #9817 of 10458
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
Wow, he was only 61.