A top 10 without Hush or The Body?
Seriously.
Also Graduation Day 1&2 and Pangs
And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Ginger - Dec 12, 2012 10:01:19 am PST #9784 of 10458
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
le nubian - Dec 12, 2012 10:02:48 am PST #9785 of 10458
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
I haven't seen "New Moon Rising" in awhile. time for a rewatch!
le nubian - Dec 12, 2012 10:03:25 am PST #9786 of 10458
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Have we ever done a poll of our Top 10? I wonder how many people would vote for which.
Jessica - Dec 12, 2012 10:04:47 am PST #9787 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Have we ever done a poll of our Top 10? I wonder how many people would vote for which.
I feel certain there was a deathmatch at some point. Damned if I can remember the results.
DavidS - Dec 12, 2012 10:06:18 am PST #9788 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
As the comments note, it's not a Top Ten, but a Ten Most Representative Episodes.
Jessica - Dec 12, 2012 10:09:09 am PST #9789 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Ten Most Representative Episodes.
I'm still pretty sure Hush and The Body should be on there. Cheat and call Surprise/Innocence a single ep if you have to.
(And take out...I dunno, The Zeppo probably. As much as I love it, it doesn't touch those two.)
Fred Pete - Dec 12, 2012 10:43:36 am PST #9790 of 10458
Ann, that's a ferret.
I think the author has a point for leaving out "The Body." The exercise is to pick the 10 episodes that will give the newbie the best idea of what the series as a whole is about. As pitch perfect as "The Body" is, a lot of the punch depends on context. Joyce was just starting to date again after surviving a life-threatening illness. Buffy had just put Riley behind her for good (or so she thought). Things were starting to come together -- and Joyce dies in the blink of an eye. The newbie won't have that context. And also won't have Anya's demon background, which adds an extra dimension to the fruit punch speech.
Looking at it from that angle, they almost have to include a non-Buffy-centric episode. "The Zeppo" fills that niche nicely, but other episodes (Dark Willow, maybe?) could do the same.
Frankenbuddha - Dec 12, 2012 10:46:39 am PST #9791 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
He basically said as much in his comments on Once More with Feeling. He also mentioned Hush, but I don't know why he didn't have it on the list over, say, Earshot, which was never one of my favorites.
Jessica - Dec 12, 2012 10:48:13 am PST #9792 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
The headline is "10 episodes that show how Buffy The Vampire Slayer blew up genre TV"
To me that doesn't say "Representative" or "Best" or "Best for newbies" - it says episodes like Restless and The Body and OMWF that were daring and experimental beyond the boundaries of what people thought a high school fantasy TV show could do.
So perhaps my quibble is just with the headline.
Frankenbuddha - Dec 12, 2012 10:49:18 am PST #9793 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I also think he probably should have left season finales off the list, if the list was for newbies, especially starting the list with Prophecy Girl.