Angel: You know, I killed my actual dad. It was one of the first things I did when I became a vampire. Wesley: I hardly see how that's the same situation. Angel: Yeah. I didn't really think that one through.

'Lineage'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


P.M. Marc - May 22, 2005 1:11:35 am PDT #925 of 10458
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm sure it's been written.

If it has, I haven't seen it, which leads me to suspect that if it has been written, it hasn't been written *well*.

Strangely, though the visual place is glorious, Willow/Faith is one of my least favorite common femmeslash pairings, usually. And I read a lot of femmeslash. I'm not sure why that is: I guess just because I don't see Willow as really fitting with bad girls.

Honestly, I think they're similar in the wrong ways for them to work for me, at least within existing canon. Vamp!Willow/Faith, however (which would require an AU within an AU) could totally work. And a Willow who was influenced by Faith instead of Buffy I can see developing in ways that would allow for her to fall hot and heavy for Faith, because she'd totally sexualize the hero-worship thing if it were Faith.

But for the most part, Faith just fits too well with Buffy for me to pair her with Willow. (Faith also fits well with Lilah, Fred, and Mary Plei. Oh, and, err, with Fay, that one time when I was writing for Slashing the Slashers.)


Gris - May 22, 2005 1:33:46 am PDT #926 of 10458
Hey. New board.

Faith/Fred? Hmmm. I can sorta see it, I think. It's an interesting concept, certainly. But Fred/Willow is such a glorious concept to me that it completely overshadows it. Mmm. Geek femmeslash. Plus that whole canon flirty thing in that one crossover episode.

I read very little Buffyverse fic, actually, so I don't have much experience with any of these pairings. Maybe I should correct. Or maybe I should just stick with Rory/Paris and Ginny/Hermione/Luna (pick any two).

This conversation really sort of ended up in a weird place, huh?


P.M. Marc - May 22, 2005 1:56:51 am PDT #927 of 10458
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Hee. If you feel like popping over to Fanfiction: Readers Writers Enablers, or whatever that thread's called, I suspect we could hook you up with the good J-verse girlslash crack.

I'll try digging my head out of my recent Grace/Kory obsession (Outsiders) long enough to find my most belovedest stories.


Allan Lang - May 22, 2005 5:12:10 am PDT #928 of 10458
'And on that tragic day, an era came to its inevitable end.' That's all there is.

OK While my Id agrees with you all, my superego thinks teaching Willow "Want. Take. Have" could have consequences.


DCJensen - May 22, 2005 8:33:41 am PDT #929 of 10458
All is well that ends in pizza.

OK While my Id agrees with you all, my superego thinks teaching Willow "Want. Take. Have" could have consequences.

Willow is already a borderline Id person. Fine tuning it with Faith would indeed be of the bad.


SailAweigh - May 22, 2005 1:11:50 pm PDT #930 of 10458
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I checked the Buffy Fic Archive and they list five Faith/Willow stories. It's a generalization, but I've found most of the stories in that archive tend to be fairly high quality. And I recommend the story "Six Faith and Willow Vignettes, In Order" by damaged justice. It's post-Chosen, post-Not Fade Away and I thought it read very much in character to both Faith and Willow.


P.M. Marc - May 22, 2005 1:28:59 pm PDT #931 of 10458
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's a generalization, but I've found most of the stories in that archive tend to be fairly high quality.

That's because Shrift runs it. And, bluntly, the worst of the dumb writers can't figure out the auto archive interface.

I must remind my lazy self to upload the rest of my stuff at some point. (Of course, I haven't updated my personal archive in over a year, so...)


Connie Neil - May 22, 2005 3:05:01 pm PDT #932 of 10458
brillig

Duh, I should put Afterwards up on shriftweb, too. I've been neck deep in WIPs so long I forget to archive things.


Frankenbuddha - May 23, 2005 4:41:40 am PDT #933 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Faith/Fred? Hmmm. I can sorta see it, I think. It's an interesting concept, certainly.

Which takes me to a Faith/Illyria place. Not a bad place necessarily.

But Fred/Willow is such a glorious concept to me that it completely overshadows it.

Given the heavy flirting the one time they met, I'm now wondering what Willow would make of Illyria (or, more to the point, what Illyria would make of Willow, and by "make" I do mean....)


-t - May 23, 2005 4:52:03 am PDT #934 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Given the heavy flirting the one time they met, I'm now wondering what Willow would make of Illyria (or, more to the point, what Illyria would make of Willow, and by "make" I do mean....)

I'm thinking they wouldn't fight crime.