Anya, the Shopkeepers of America called. They wanted me to tell you that 'please go' just got replaced with 'have a nice day.'

Xander ,'Selfless'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 30, 2012 8:02:22 am PDT #9040 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

That's right - I'd forgotten about that. They had that a bit of that season 4, what with Seth Green asking to go.


erikaj - Mar 30, 2012 8:33:58 am PDT #9041 of 10458
Always Anti-fascist!

I think what they intended was probably more interesting. Not that I hated those eps or anything(rewatching for fanfic *right now* AIFG, although still without all of Mark's feels.) But there are places where things feel rushed sometimes(Riley, who's generally not the kind of character a latter-day hippie like me is primed to dig anyway, but they really didn't get much time to decide who he was before he had to go be something else.)


Frankenbuddha - Mar 30, 2012 8:55:25 am PDT #9042 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think Adam could have been a lot more interesting of a big bad then they made him, and based on the actor's appearence in Restless it doesn't look like a lack of acting ability (unlike, say, if Adam had been played by Bailey Chase or Charlie Weber).

Not that the Mayor's or Angelus/Drusillas' motives/plans made all that much more sense, but they did their villiany with panache. But a decent plan for Adam would have made up for the (I assume) deliberate lack of style.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 30, 2012 1:51:44 pm PDT #9043 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The Mayor's plan made a lot of sense: attaining apotheosis into an ageless colossal demon that could push around anyone he wanted. He'd just been at it so long he failed to take into account the ready availability of modern explosives.

An error in judgment that was also the Judge's undoing, as I recall.


§ ita § - Mar 30, 2012 2:14:59 pm PDT #9044 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've been trawling the archives on cracked.com, and the lack of follow up on the sex mantis from Teacher's Pet as one of the five most maddening unresolved plotlines on TV.

I had never really given it much thought, but luckily Sunnydale is gone, so that's all good.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 30, 2012 4:43:13 pm PDT #9045 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The Mayor's plan made a lot of sense: attaining apotheosis into an ageless colossal demon that could push around anyone he wanted. He'd just been at it so long he failed to take into account the ready availability of modern explosives.

Well, except, didn't he want to eat the world? Which he seemed to enjoy. Kill everyone and there's no more miniature golf or icies. Which he may be beyond at that point, but still. But how sanitary is devouring creatures whole when you're not immortal anymore? Since he seemed to know his own weakness once ascended. Or was it only when ascending? It's been a while.

And, DAMN, I really need a rewatch!


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 30, 2012 6:03:48 pm PDT #9046 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't recall anything about eating the world in his plans. Presumable he would have gone around eating lots of individual people and generally doing whatever giant serpent demons enjoy doing.

Are you mixing his plan up with what Acathla was supposed to do once Angel woke him up?


billytea - Mar 30, 2012 7:34:10 pm PDT #9047 of 10458
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I didn't get much idea of what the mayor planned post-ascension either, but I noticed on rewatch that in his video message to Faith he seemed to envisage himself still being mayor of Sunnydale.


DCJensen - Mar 31, 2012 5:21:06 am PDT #9048 of 10458
All is well that ends in pizza.

I always assumed that Adam was another military Captain America, only made of and for killing demons...and other military applications.


victor infante - Apr 03, 2012 11:08:36 am PDT #9049 of 10458
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

From Mark Watches:

You know what comforted me? Darla. Because I really like her and I really like Julie Benz and I know it’s probably asking too much, but I’d be down to see more of her. I shouldn’t say that, should I? Well, she was already killed off, so it can’t get worse, can it??? WHY AM I ASKING THESE QUESTIONS HAVE I LEARNED NOTHING.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!