You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2012 11:18:57 am PDT #8934 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yep, just like Angel got cancelled in the second season. Just like that.


Polter-Cow - Mar 15, 2012 11:20:55 am PDT #8935 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It got canceled in its fifth season! It was a delayed release. Tim was still honing his powers.


§ ita § - Mar 15, 2012 11:35:57 am PDT #8936 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Five seasons is a perfectly decent run. I will not bitch about that.


Typo Boy - Mar 15, 2012 11:50:40 am PDT #8937 of 10458
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Would you say "Guise will be Guise" (Wes pretends to be Angel) the episode where Wes transformed from someone with a badass side that showed sometime to a full flown fulltime baddass?


Connie Neil - Mar 15, 2012 12:13:29 pm PDT #8938 of 10458
brillig

I always liked the episode with the silly fight arena, where Wes pulled a gun on the gangsters.


Connie Neil - Mar 15, 2012 12:23:11 pm PDT #8939 of 10458
brillig

I've got all of Angel on DVD, I should put it in my background TV rotation with NCIS. Mark Watches is reminding me how much I enjoyed it.

And seeing them all enjoying Angel's goofiness is making me look forward to the returns of Angelus, because Angelus is in no way goofy and he takes such joy in the pain of others. And Angelus can carry a tune, which was even creepier when they had him stuck in that cage at the Hyperion and he was singing to himself as he leaned malevolently in the corner.


Typo Boy - Mar 15, 2012 4:18:22 pm PDT #8940 of 10458
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But the Ring I think still was Wes as "having a well hidden badass streak" . Though well on the way to more. At some point he became a badass, full stop. Not that episode. But not long after.


tiggy - Mar 15, 2012 4:41:21 pm PDT #8941 of 10458
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

probably sometime after Faith nearly killed him.


DavidS - Mar 15, 2012 4:58:06 pm PDT #8942 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

probably sometime after Faith nearly killed him.

Yeah, she put an edge on him.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 15, 2012 7:01:08 pm PDT #8943 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yeah, she put an edge on him.

Yes! When she gave him a chance to beg, and he essentially told her to fuck off was a transformative moment.

Was that before or after the pseudo-Angelus episode in the first season?