Flames wouldn't be eternal if they actually consumed anything.

Lilah ,'Not Fade Away'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Cass - Feb 10, 2012 1:11:26 pm PST #8602 of 10459
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

No, I wasn't being disingenuous. I am genuinely pleased he is able to do this full time and that he has been making money for a while.

I just started reading his watching of Buffy "live" and it's not of interest to me. Previously I'd picked and chose things of his to read in bits. He works as snack reading for me.

I guess there's more suspicion of disingenuousness if you have financial investment in retaining readership? What about other professional bloggers?

I do go into professional (is that the word I want? Sponsored?) blogs knowing there is some level of advertising at play. It's not all F-150 on Alias levels, but if they are being paid, it's advertising. That's okay though. Gmail advertises to me as well.

So go him for doing something he seems to enjoy for a living. But his thing is not (and never has been beyond grazing) my cuppa.


Polter-Cow - Feb 10, 2012 1:21:39 pm PST #8603 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

No, I wasn't being disingenuous.

Oh, I didn't mean you were being disingenuous. I meant that people would suspect Mark of being disingenuous.

I do go into professional (is that the word I want? Sponsored?) blogs knowing there is some level of advertising at play. It's not all F-150 on Alias levels, but if they are being paid, it's advertising.

What about bloggers who aren't full-time but do make money from their blogging activities, either by advertising or selling merchandise?

I sort of get it, but then I start thinking about the fact that, well, money for art is a thing, can I not trust any artist who makes money? Is only the starving artist truly pure and honest and uncorrupted? Sometimes I think about these things, and sometimes I don't. I remember being a little wary when The Guild got a corporate sponsorship, but it didn't seem to affect the stories at all; they just got to look nicer and do bigger and better things, and, you know, more power to Felicia Day for being able to do what she loves. But other times I think, ah, I remember when you were funded solely by PayPal donations and your own cash, beholden only to yourselves!


§ ita § - Feb 10, 2012 1:27:39 pm PST #8604 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I suspect Mark is either disingenuous or unable to form memories. Okay, there were a ton of less bitchy ways to put that. But that's the most succinct I could think of.

For me, I can't buy him still being *that* startled by everything that happens. Either it's a good persona to maintain, because it's his schtick and it draws a good crowd (why shouldn't he pay his rent?) or he really maintains what feels like a constant high level of naivete. Either way, not consistently interesting for me to read.


erikaj - Feb 10, 2012 1:28:30 pm PST #8605 of 10459
Always Anti-fascist!

"beholden to no human cocksucker." Sorry...couldn't resist, Sunil. ita, wrod. Although occasionally, I wonder where he gets his drugs. (metaphorically speaking)


Cass - Feb 10, 2012 1:39:27 pm PST #8606 of 10459
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

What about bloggers who aren't full-time but do make money from their blogging activities, either by advertising or selling merchandise?

Advertising or advocating products or systems or something purchasable, yes, I am aware that they are to some extent wanting to sell me something. That's not entirely bad. Trader Joe's wants to sell me stuff. So does my internet provider. And my vet. They provide products or services I want and will exchange money to have. Same with blog merch. Or band merch.

I sort of get it, but then I start thinking about the fact that, well, money for art is a thing, can I not trust any artist who makes money? Is only the starving artist truly pure and honest and uncorrupted?

To me, that's going back to the thing where real artists don't have a plan b. And that's bullshit. They expect to eat. Whether they have money from family, a previous career, live off of a spouse's earnings, fan donations or an expectation that society safety nets will save them. Money for art is a thing. So is money for any other product or service.

But other times I think, ah, I remember when you were funded solely by PayPal donations and your own cash, beholden only to yourselves!

And, if you hoped to have PayPal donations continue, beholden to those people as well.

We don't live in a world outside of money.

Unless you live a purely hunting and gathering existence. But then you can't talk on the internet. Which limits this conversation.


Cass - Feb 10, 2012 1:40:46 pm PST #8607 of 10459
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

For me, I can't buy him still being *that* startled by everything that happens. Either it's a good persona to maintain, because it's his schtick and it draws a good crowd (why shouldn't he pay his rent?) or he really maintains what feels like a constant high level of naivete. Either way, not consistently interesting for me to read.

This.

Basically, good for him but I am not his market.


Connie Neil - Feb 10, 2012 1:44:50 pm PST #8608 of 10459
brillig

I'm digging his reading of LotR, but it feels like he's treating Buffy partially as a forum for psychoanalyzing his high school years.


Steph L. - Feb 10, 2012 2:26:41 pm PST #8609 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

For me, I can't buy him still being *that* startled by everything that happens.

Oh my god, seriously. And not just startled, but PUMMELLED! BY! EMOTION! SO! MUCH! EMOTION!


§ ita § - Feb 10, 2012 2:28:02 pm PST #8610 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

HE HAS ALL THE FEELS.

Oh, god, I'm both tired and old. And I age and tire just reading that level of intense flailing.


JZ - Feb 10, 2012 3:32:54 pm PST #8611 of 10459
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

it feels like he's treating Buffy partially as a forum for psychoanalyzing his high school years.

Ah. That must be why I like him so much -- that's exactly the way I've always watched and read and thought about Buffy (and, seriously, don't ever read a single word I write about My So-Called Life, because I'm positive you will promptly lose every shred of respect you ever might have had for me).

He's definitely not everyone's beautiful cake, but I'm charmed by the pummeled-by-emotionness. There's just something about the utterly fearless giddy nakedness of his emotions that makes me happy. I practically never wade into the comments (I skim for Buffistas but mostly ignore the others), but Mark himself... yeah. I'm totally down with the fact that the puppyness rubs a lot of people the wrong way, but I just like it. It does make me feel old, but in an Awwwww, so young and earnest! sort of way.