None of it means a damn thing.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Jon B. - Jan 18, 2012 3:43:59 am PST #8386 of 10459
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I don't think we were even this unspoiled when we were watching it the first time

I watched Surprise/Innocence first run on the TV and I remember being baffled by the meaning of Angel's scream at the end of Surprise.


le nubian - Jan 18, 2012 3:58:51 am PST #8387 of 10459
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

indeed. AND I knew it didn't mean anything good.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 18, 2012 5:26:23 am PST #8388 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Was the bit with the smoker in the alley at the beginning of "Innocence" instead of the end of "Surprise"?


ChiKat - Jan 18, 2012 5:27:12 am PST #8389 of 10459
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Beginning of Innocence, IIRC.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 18, 2012 5:32:08 am PST #8390 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Thanks. I almost always watch them straight through together, so I didn't have a good sense of where the cutoff was.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 18, 2012 11:38:02 am PST #8391 of 10459
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And Innocence is up.

Becoming 2 is really going to mess him up, isn't it?


Nora Deirdre - Jan 18, 2012 11:42:19 am PST #8392 of 10459
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

When's Passion up?


Frankenbuddha - Jan 18, 2012 11:45:45 am PST #8393 of 10459
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Monday it looks. We've got Phases and then Bewitched, etc. to finish out this week.


Steph L. - Jan 18, 2012 11:50:38 am PST #8394 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Becoming 2 is really going to mess him up, isn't it?

It's a really, really great mind-fuck. There seem like 2 ways out of the Acathla dealie -- (1) Willow re-souls Angel, he's good again, no sucking into hell, yay; or (2) Buffy kills Angelus, which would still be basically okay because he's pure distilled evil who just tortured Giles.

But wait, there's more! How about option 1 AND 2?!? That? SO FUCKED UP. I never saw it coming. It's so MEAN. And pretty brilliant.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 18, 2012 11:52:57 am PST #8395 of 10459
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Plus Joyce finding out that Buffy is the Slayer and basically giving her the "if you walk out that door" ultimtum, AND telling Giles she blames him for everything that's happening. Or was the second one season two? It's been a while.