Two by two, hands of blue. Two by two, hands of blue.

River ,'Ariel'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


erikaj - Jan 12, 2012 11:30:25 am PST #8260 of 10459
Always Anti-fascist!

"It's all in the game." (Now I totally want to hear this from ASH...Bourdain said it the other day and my knees got weak. Which, admittedly, is not different from their usual state, but you know. Y'all know that if he wasn't married to someone ita would have to save me from, I'd do strange and awkward things with that guy. But Octavia would kill me if I tried anything. Might be worth it--finally something to make up for not being messed-up enough to be a Make-A-Wish kid.


Atropa - Jan 12, 2012 11:33:34 am PST #8261 of 10459
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Yes. There is no closure for Drusilla, she's a vampire forever. And she was mostly torturing Angel because she enjoys it.

Also, Dru doesn't want closure. By everything that's shown, being a vampire is OMG THE BEST THING EVER!!1 for Dru.

I miss Dru & Spike as a couple. They were adorable together.


billytea - Jan 12, 2012 11:35:02 am PST #8262 of 10459
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

"It's all in the game."

In-deed.


sj - Jan 12, 2012 11:36:03 am PST #8263 of 10459
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Also, Dru doesn't want closure. By everything that's shown, being a vampire is OMG THE BEST THING EVER!!1 for Dru.

Jilli, I agree, that's why I mentioned that she enjoyed torturing Angel, not to make him pay for what he did to her but just because she likes to torture.

I miss Dru & Spike as a couple. They were adorable together.

Also this.


sumi - Jan 12, 2012 11:36:47 am PST #8264 of 10459
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, Spike & Dru were adorable and scary.


§ ita § - Jan 12, 2012 11:38:40 am PST #8265 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It’s not something the writers could have done

That's a weird sentence. I mean, for her to get closure, she'd have to be able to process it, which she patently can't. She's also not the soul that was tortured, although she is the meatsack and burnt out nerve endings and fucked up brain chemistry. There can be no closure while he lives, and even then.

However, it's pretty clear a parallel when the tortured turn the implements on the torturer, and Joss isn't dumb enough to not have noticed it (I'm giving Mark partial benefit of the doubt and assuming Joss didn't do it, you know, on purpose).

It’s not something the writers could have done, but it seemed like a conscious choice to include that in the script.

No, this sentence just isn't clear for me.


Atropa - Jan 12, 2012 11:39:12 am PST #8266 of 10459
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Jilli, I agree, that's why I mentioned that she enjoyed torturing Angel, not to make him pay for what he did to her but just because she likes to torture.

I'm amusing myself by imagining Dru's plans for a typical day. Choose a pretty dress, torture Angel (or someone, but it would be nice if it were Angel), have a tea party with Miss Edith, go name all the stars.


Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2012 11:39:18 am PST #8267 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

And she was mostly torturing Angel because she enjoys it.

Yeah, but she enjoys it especially because she gets to torture HIM, specifically, who tortured her. I don't think there's any sort of "closure" involved, though, I agree.

Plus he was totally freaked out by the fact Giles and Willow killed vampires on screen. I'm not sure what's so shocking about that.

Well, it's always cool when the normal, non-powered people get to kill vamps.

Yes, see also not understanding that Angels wounds heal quickly because he is a vampire.

Now that was weird.

I miss Dru & Spike as a couple. They were adorable together.

Yeah, they were very fun. Though I'm still amused that she eventually went off and found a...tree demon? Was that it? He had deer horns and was slimy or something.


brenda m - Jan 12, 2012 11:42:19 am PST #8268 of 10459
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It’s not something the writers could have done, but it seemed like a conscious choice to include that in the script.

What does that even mean?


Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2012 11:43:40 am PST #8269 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I feel like there's a typo in there somewhere because, yeah. Not with the sense.