Okay, here is a page that mentions him among others as possibles for the Joker.
I've been out of the abbey two days, I've beaten a lawman senseless, I've fallen in with criminals. I watched the captain shoot the man I swore to protect. And I'm not even sure if I think he was wrong.
Book ,'Serenity'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
sumi - May 13, 2005 6:32:15 am PDT #766 of 10458
Art Crawl!!!
§ ita § - May 13, 2005 6:39:55 am PDT #767 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Latino Review does a fair amount of general breaking of movie news.
sumi - May 13, 2005 7:15:31 am PDT #768 of 10458
Art Crawl!!!
Okay, I had no idea what they were -- but when I went to the site I could tell what their mission is.
Gris - May 13, 2005 6:54:34 pm PDT #769 of 10458
Hey. New board.
Oh man. Want Alexis to be the Joker. WANT.
Lee - May 13, 2005 7:47:30 pm PDT #770 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Who do you think Buffy came closer to loving, Spike or Riley?
(and who was more important to her?)
Matt the Bruins fan - May 14, 2005 6:37:33 am PDT #771 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I think Spike was definitely more important to her, but it's hard to say on the love issue.
SailAweigh - May 14, 2005 6:49:53 am PDT #772 of 10458
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I think Buffy was in love with the "idea" of Riley as a "normal" boyfriend. Actually, I think it was more that she found Riley attractive because he was so much in love with her and having someone human love her was important to her. It made her feel like she was living what Angel wanted for her (whether she actually wanted or needed it.)
Spike, I don't know that she was ever in love with him, but I do think she loved him. He was very important to her, particularly in season 7 in that he, unlike Riley or Angel, never abandoned her (we're not counting turning into a big pile of dust to save the world as abandonment, it was to save the world!) Plus, she even sort of admitted it in one episode with the "why does everyone think I'm still in love with Spike?" (And don't tell me it was a mispeak on SMG's part, I don't care, it's canon now.)
Topic!Cindy - May 14, 2005 6:58:29 am PDT #773 of 10458
What is even happening?
You know how Buffy and Faith are sort of photo negatives of each other (at least for a while)? Does anyone think that's true of Riley and Spike--at least where their roles in Buffy's life are concerned?
Stephanie - May 14, 2005 7:07:41 am PDT #774 of 10458
Trust my rage
I think I agree with Sail's interpretation. Riley was Buffy's last ditch attempt to be a normal girl with a normal boyfriend.
I think her relationshipo with Spike was more complicated, but ultimately deeper. I do think she loved him - I think she meant it when she said it, even though maybe Spike thought she didn't.
JenP - May 14, 2005 3:23:09 pm PDT #775 of 10458
"why does everyone think I'm still in love with Spike?" (And don't tell me it was a mispeak on SMG's part, I don't care, it's canon now.)
I about fell off the couch when I heard that line back then, Sail. I'm with you.