Buffy: A Guide, but no water or food. So it leads me to the sacred place and then a week later it leads you to my bleached bones? Giles: Buffy, really. It takes more than a week to bleach bones.

'Dirty Girls'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

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Nora Deirdre - Sep 08, 2010 12:06:26 pm PDT #7453 of 10464
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

After Buffy died in The Gift, did you (any of you) mourn? And if so, did you do something specific to mark your mourning? If you mourned, did the fact that she was obviously going to return (show called "Buffy") affect how you mourned

Yes- I bought a lot of Buffy related books and scripts and stuff to have during the summer hiatus. I knew she was coming back, but I knew that it wouldn't be the same. Also the way that she approached her death was so fucking heartbreaking. Like, with relief. And tired sadness.


le nubian - Sep 08, 2010 12:47:37 pm PDT #7454 of 10464
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Steph,

when Buffy died in "The Gift" my feelings were complicated by Dawn (who I really really didn't like) and that I was pretty sure Buffy would be back. My main area of concern at the time (as I recall) and early in the next season was whether Buffy would come back wrong.


quester - Sep 08, 2010 3:01:49 pm PDT #7455 of 10464
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I didn't morn Buffy, but if that had been the end of the show I might have. I most definitely was in shock after Jenny's death, and missed her almost as much as Giles did. I also morned for Joyce and Terra, but I morned more for the loss of Oz.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2010 3:10:05 pm PDT #7456 of 10464
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I committed fic. That summer was the only time I wrote fic for any fandom ever, and it was all prompted by the idea of Buffy being dead and everyone mourning her. I knew she would be back, but the utter looks of grief (especially on the faces of Giles and Spike) gutted me.


Zenkitty - Sep 08, 2010 3:26:44 pm PDT #7457 of 10464
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I mourned with the characters who were mourning, but not for Buffy. Of course I knew she would be back, but I would have been content to end the series there. It was a fitting and perfect end, for both the show and her. I'm not sad it *didn't* end, mind you, but if it had, that would have been okay with me.

I'm not normally okay with ending a show I love with the death of a/the main character. But she's the Slayer. She was never gonna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren. Better she go out saving the world than getting offed by a vampire on a bad night.


DavidS - Sep 08, 2010 3:55:37 pm PDT #7458 of 10464
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I didn't mourn at all because I knew she was coming back, and thought it was kind of cheesy to kill her and bring her back.

But that was before I experienced S6 and Joss really made Buffy's death consequential.

Still, I thought it was a cheezy comic book death. If she had died-stayed-dead-end-of-show I would've mourned.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 08, 2010 4:24:32 pm PDT #7459 of 10464
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I totally thought she was really dead. And I was very sad, but not as wiped out as I was after Joyce died. I thought it would be possible that either SMG would return, but not Buffy, or Buffy would return but not SMG.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 08, 2010 4:53:01 pm PDT #7460 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I knew Buffy was coming back, so I didn't mourn. But Jenny and Tara got me to mourn, and Joyce's death hit me harder than any fictional death since before I was in kindergarten. It's rare that entertainment can make me well up (usually only when it's a story about tragedies that befell real life people), but you'd have thought one of my own relatives had died the way I was crying during "The Body."


askye - Sep 08, 2010 5:58:10 pm PDT #7461 of 10464
Thrive to spite them

Me too Matt.

A neighbor was watching with me (shed' been watching buffy with me a bit) and she couldn't understand why I was so upset.

I could just say, "Buffy's Mom died!" I even called Mom afterwards and told her I loved her, just because I could.

Jenny and Tara's deaths were shocking but still related to vampires and slaying. But Joyce's death was shocking and I think hurt more because it was so normal.

And the episode was so well done. The lack of music and the quiet of the house. Then Buffy goes outside and opens the door and there's the sound of kids playing (I think, or birds) it was kind of jarring for me and a hint of normal and happiness amid Buffy's grief it just felt like an intrusion.

SMG did a really good job. I can't remember but I think I was pulling myself together when Buffy says "you can't touch the body" and the look on her face when she realizes what she's said.

I have a hard time rewatching it.


Maysa - Sep 08, 2010 10:55:36 pm PDT #7462 of 10464

I remember at the time being shocked, because I had read that somebody would die in the finale, but I never thought it would be Buffy. And then, because the show was leaving the WB, the network put together a "thank you to Buffy for five great seasons" (or something) right after the credits and I actually had a week or so where I thought the whole move to UPN might've been a fake out and the show was over and Buffy was dead.

And I didn't mourn, because I think The Gift had a great ending - and the idea of her dieing in service felt kinda right. It was sad and lovely - a proper hero's death. I still would prefer that ending to the mess that the show became during its last season and a half. Even thinking of seventh season now makes me slightly bitter.