Mal: How drunk was I last night? Jayne: Well I dunno. I passed out.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Steph L. - Sep 04, 2010 6:49:29 am PDT #7438 of 10464
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I have a creepy memory that hangs on to EVERYTHING.


Shir - Sep 04, 2010 6:52:09 am PDT #7439 of 10464
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

And I fear, love and respect you for that.


DebetEsse - Sep 04, 2010 7:25:57 am PDT #7440 of 10464
Woe to the fucking wicked.

You could also talk about Xander's Yellow Crayon saving the world.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Sep 04, 2010 11:29:17 am PDT #7441 of 10464
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Context to sociology-speakers: a part of what I'm doing is taking Durkheim's study on suicides, and linking it to superheros

That is far too exciting. Details! Draft copies!


Shir - Sep 04, 2010 11:53:02 am PDT #7442 of 10464
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I'm still working on the Buffyverse connection, but what set me to do it, in the first place, was Durkheim's observation that moral ideas are (solely?) composed of certain amount of egoism, certain amount of altruism, and a dash of anomie. In that moment, all I could think of was "OMG! It's Captain Jack Harkness! And the Doctor!".

And since Durkheim shows that if any of these "ingredients" of the social order is too strong in an individual there will be a suicide of some sort, the easiest thing is to show how it works with superheros.

The other coolest thing in my plan is to use this as a demonstration to what simulacra is.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Sep 04, 2010 12:42:30 pm PDT #7443 of 10464
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

The Guild itself, or the video? Presumably gaming as an example of simulacra has been written about somewhere, although The Guild is one step further into Disneyland-style unreality.


Shir - Sep 04, 2010 7:32:19 pm PDT #7444 of 10464
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Just the video, but there will be a few sentences on The Guild itself (problem is, perfect example, but I'm not sure how much sci-fi/fantasy it is...).


le nubian - Sep 05, 2010 10:07:15 am PDT #7445 of 10464
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Shir,

re: Durkheim...

Don't you think that Durkheim's analyses are best when focused on a community rather than on the individual? This is not a critique, but a musing. So looking at a superhero in context of the society in which that person exists would be relevant here.

Batman and Gotham in "Dark Knight" for example vs. Tony Stark.


Shir - Sep 05, 2010 10:12:45 am PDT #7446 of 10464
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

le nubian, you're right, and your critique makes me phrase myself better. Like Durkheim, I'm trying to focus on a community while using examples of superheroes. And I must say - these heroes change. Buffy's reasons to sacrifice herself in 1x12 aren't the same as in "The Gift" (at least, the way she puts it). I hope to show why, with the greater context of society.


le nubian - Sep 05, 2010 5:17:26 pm PDT #7447 of 10464
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

it was a musing! not a critique. :-)