Aren't we talking two different points? You can be very good in bed and still not expect much from your partners. See "love the one you're with".
Willow: Yikes. Imagine the things...Buffy: No! Stop imagining! All of you! Xander: Already got the visual.
'Dirty Girls'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Betsy HP - May 12, 2005 7:53:33 am PDT #718 of 10458
If I only had a brain...
Scrappy - May 12, 2005 7:57:37 am PDT #719 of 10458
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
There are guys whose greatest pleasure in bed is making love TO their partner rather than with--in some ways, an unresponsive, or a passionate but unschooled partner is more of a challenge and more satisfying for them.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 12, 2005 8:19:03 am PDT #720 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I tend to think Harmony must have been fairly good to avoid staking after about 5 minutes of pillow talk.
Topic!Cindy - May 12, 2005 8:24:52 am PDT #721 of 10458
What is even happening?
Aren't we talking two different points? You can be very good in bed and still not expect much from your partners. See "love the one you're with".That's a good point, Betsy.
There are guys whose greatest pleasure in bed is making love TO their partner rather than with--in some ways, an unresponsive, or a passionate but unschooled partner is more of a challenge and more satisfying for them.I think it is arguable that would have been the case for Spike, prior to Buffy. I don't know about afterwards. He commented on her prowess--seemed a little in awe of her. I think that relationship was profound for him in many ways though, and it's probably not so simple to shift the sex out from the rest of the dynamics.
I tend to think Harmony must have been fairly good to avoid staking after about 5 minutes of pillow talk.Heh. Funnier 'cause it's true.
joe boucher - May 12, 2005 8:39:48 am PDT #722 of 10458
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine
Would anyone NOT chuck Harmony?
Because some of us are shallow enough to think, "I bet she looks and feels really good naked."
From Angel's point of view, FCM: Spike, Wes, Gunn. Don't let this sway your decision.
Betsy HP - May 12, 2005 8:40:38 am PDT #723 of 10458
If I only had a brain...
C Gunn, F Spike, M Wes.
Easy-peasy.
Katie M - May 12, 2005 8:53:34 am PDT #724 of 10458
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
C Spike, F Wes, M Gunn. I have no idea what Wes would be like in bed, but I'd much rather be married to big old dorky non-crazy fanboy Gunn and Spike isn't getting within fifty feet of me, thanks.
Topic!Cindy - May 12, 2005 8:55:05 am PDT #725 of 10458
What is even happening?
It was from Angel's POV Katie, but I think your reasoning could be Angel's (with soul), arguably.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 12, 2005 8:58:33 am PDT #726 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'm with Betsy on this one. Wesley was practically tailor-made for codependence with Angel, and as for fucking Spike... well, we already know he has.
Frankenbuddha - May 12, 2005 9:08:24 am PDT #727 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Just the one time....