Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop.

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Kevin - Aug 10, 2008 12:20:32 am PDT #6539 of 10467
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

In case anybody missed it, Buffy The Vampire Slayer, the animated series: [link]

Joss has a thing for dragons, doesn't he?


Laga - Aug 10, 2008 12:05:45 pm PDT #6540 of 10467
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

A guy just walked up my street wearing a Captain Hammer shirt.


Kevin - Aug 10, 2008 12:10:38 pm PDT #6541 of 10467
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

admit it - it was Nathan, wasn't it?


Lee - Aug 15, 2008 9:09:54 pm PDT #6542 of 10467
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Of all the people in the Jossverse who've died, whose death would you say
a) was the saddest and/or
b) hit you the hardest?

For a, I would have to say Wesley, and not just because I just watched it again. He died not only having failed at one last thing, but also having Illyria lie to him.

For b, it would have to be either Wesley or Joyce's. It might be Wash's, if I had even actually seen it, but I always covered my eyes instead.


Cass - Aug 15, 2008 9:21:34 pm PDT #6543 of 10467
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Wesley isn't dead. He's pining for the Council is all. He's dead, isn't he ?

The hardest to hit me? Wash. As amazing as The Body was, seeing a preview of Serenity and Wash dying just broke me.


DCJensen - Aug 16, 2008 3:43:49 am PDT #6544 of 10467
All is well that ends in pizza.

In the After the Fall comics, Joss reveals the fates of everyone in the Angelverse after the last episode.

It turns out just like Holland Manners, Wesley's contract extends beyond death.

So there's some hope.


DCJensen - Aug 16, 2008 3:46:38 am PDT #6545 of 10467
All is well that ends in pizza.

For me? Wash and Joyce would be the top as well.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 16, 2008 4:26:00 am PDT #6546 of 10467
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think for me it was actually Buffy, at the end of Season 5, closely followed by Joyce. I remember feeling actually physically ill for a couple of days following both of those deaths, especially since I totally, despite about 150 million elements of foreshadowing, did not think Buffy would die. And when she did, I really thought that they wouldn't bring her back-- that they might do some body switcheroo or something and have SMG playing Faith or the Buffy bot or something.

I think part of the reason it hit me so hard is that I pretty much fell for Buffy during Restless, discovered the Buffistas and really the internet, mainlined all of the series I could get my hands on, all in that one season. And then she died!


JenP - Aug 16, 2008 4:29:47 am PDT #6547 of 10467

I think because it was my first exposure to Jossverse deaths, I'm going with JCal as the one that hit me the hardest... with the effect it had on Giles and everyone. Willow and Buffy through the window, and then Buffy and Giles at the end. Oof. (Which is not to say that Joyce's death didn't affect them, der, but I'm just saying, I was more prepared for that sort of thing by the time The Body rolled around.)

I'm saddest about Wash. I love Wash, and Wash and Zoe, and Zoe, and that one kills me.


Vortex - Aug 16, 2008 6:58:11 am PDT #6548 of 10467
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that Jenny Calendar hit me the hardest. It was so unexpected, and so cruel. I think that it was really the first time that the death that surrounded them really touched them.

Wesley's was the saddest, I think.