Just keep walking, preacher-man.

River ,'Jaynestown'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Juliebird - Jul 23, 2008 2:37:28 pm PDT #6360 of 10467
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Whatever your views of Dr. Horrible, the end is still incredibly horrific.

Even if Penny was just some ideal non-person to Billy/Dr. Horrible, in the end, despite his full embrace of the Evil League of Evil, in the end, there he is at his blog, totally undone. And a part of me thinks that's even more awful than if she'd been a non-non-person to him. Maybe that's messed up, but if she was just some object, some ideal to be won/captured/obtained, and the loss of that ideal object devestated him, then I don't see anything/anyone else ever being capable of replacing her. In her non-specificness, she was everything, if that makes sense (it almost does in my head, so I'm running with it), whereas if he'd loved her for her, then her loss was a singularity, and there is still hope and love in the rest of humanity. But it was all wrapped up in this Penny person, and now that's/she's gone.


Vortex - Jul 23, 2008 4:03:48 pm PDT #6361 of 10467
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Juliebird, I think that if she was just an object to him, he wouldn't be so sad, he'd just find a new object. I get the feeling that he was trying to power through on the high of beating his enemy and the accolades and success, but found that it wasn't enough. But, that could totally be my romantic take on it.


Laga - Jul 23, 2008 4:10:59 pm PDT #6362 of 10467
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Maybe she wasn't just an object to him, but he decided he loved her before they even spoke. That's pretty unrealistic.


Wolfram - Jul 24, 2008 10:59:55 am PDT #6363 of 10467
Visilurking

I like Juliebird's take in that Penny was larger than life to him. In actuality they had very little in common, and it may never have worked out. But in his mind, she was his end-all, be-all, and now the real Penny is no longer around to correct his way overblown idealistic portrait of her.

Penny's the cheerleader at the beginning of the movie that the scrawny nerd would give his right eyetooth to date. Then he finds out all she cares about is shopping and hair products, and he'd much rather canoodle with his bespectacled, overall wearing lab partner, who also likes D & D and fixing old cars. Only in this movie, the cheerleader dies in the first scene.


Vortex - Jul 24, 2008 11:05:35 am PDT #6364 of 10467
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Chat with NPH on the Post's website - [link]


Laga - Jul 24, 2008 11:36:12 am PDT #6365 of 10467
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Just when I thought I couldn't love NPH more.


Simon - Jul 24, 2008 10:47:58 pm PDT #6366 of 10467

There's a WhedonTube?

It's a Whedon.info née Buffy.nu spinoff site.


Polter-Cow - Jul 24, 2008 10:59:13 pm PDT #6367 of 10467
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

'Dr. Horrible': An oral history.

Very good read.


Vortex - Jul 25, 2008 5:13:35 am PDT #6368 of 10467
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Dr. Horrible got a plug in Daily Candy today.


Glamcookie - Jul 25, 2008 10:39:40 am PDT #6369 of 10467
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Nerd alert: I'm sitting waiting for the Dr. Horrible panel while wearing my Dr. Horrible t-shirt.