You're nice, and you're funny and you don't smoke, and okay, werewolf, but that's not all the time. I mean, three days out of the month, I'm not much fun to be around, either.

Willow ,'Get It Done'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - May 07, 2005 7:55:34 pm PDT #572 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Darla gave birth to his baby. Really, how can any woman compete?


SailAweigh - May 07, 2005 7:58:11 pm PDT #573 of 10458
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Well, Darla was definitely closer to the earth. Especially after Drusilla put her in it.


§ ita § - May 07, 2005 8:18:02 pm PDT #574 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And then she was dust!


SailAweigh - May 07, 2005 8:22:55 pm PDT #575 of 10458
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Talk about the one who got away. No one recovers from that.


Zenkitty - May 07, 2005 8:32:06 pm PDT #576 of 10458
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Changed my mind. It's Darla.


SailAweigh - May 07, 2005 8:53:27 pm PDT #577 of 10458
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I think we need to rename the thread. "DarlaNAngle4EVA!!11!!


Alibelle - May 07, 2005 9:41:23 pm PDT #578 of 10458
Apart from sports, "my secret favorite thing on earth is ketchup. I will put ketchup on anything. But it has to be Heinz." - my husband, Michael Vartan

I love Darla. Seriously. I think she's awesome. But I also think that he went to such great lengths to save her because he saw himself in her. They did share a lot. I don't think it was anything special and particular about Darla herself that made him want to go out of his way to help her, I think it was just history, and what could have been, if things had gone a little differently for Angel. I still say that the most important person to Angel is Buffy.


Gris - May 07, 2005 11:03:31 pm PDT #579 of 10458
Hey. New board.

Oh, please. The most important person to Angel was obviously Cordy. TheirLoveWasSoPure!

(ducks)


P.M. Marc - May 07, 2005 11:49:28 pm PDT #580 of 10458
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You'd best be ducking, mister.

Buffy and Darla were, in my view, equally important to Angel, though I think Buffy has the edge if you weigh in him seeing the other as a person instead of a symbol of something. Darla had incredible symbolic importance to him, but her personal connection was to Angelus, not to Angel. (You can reverse that with Buffy: Angelus was as obsessed with destroying her in S2 BtVS as Angel was with saving Darla in S2 AtS.)

It's interesting, to me at least, though I've no doubt that I'm stating the obvious, that the further Angel was removed from himself and his mission (S5), the more Buffy reverted in his mind to the symbol she started as, instead of the person he knew and loved.

Randomly, I think that in S3 Buffy, Angel came as close to getting Buffy and her mindset and what goes on in that little blonde head as anyone ever did, which is why the S3 BtVS Angst Extended Mix doesn't bother me at all. Faith, for the record, comes second closest, but there's a Buffy/Faith mutual blind spot WRT motivations.

Without the distance of observer, Spike (who is the master of the Personal Blind Spot) didn't really get what made her tick at all, though he got her physical (beyond sexual) rhythms down pat.


Topic!Cindy - May 08, 2005 1:36:10 am PDT #581 of 10458
What is even happening?

Buffy.

Angel killed Darla for her.