Gunn: Well, how horrible is this thing? Lorne: I haven't read the Book of Revelations lately, but if I was searching for adjectives, I'd probably start there.

'Hell Bound'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


sj - Dec 30, 2007 2:10:39 pm PST #5530 of 10469
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm actually not hating it at all; although I am strongly trying to ignore the whole is Giles dead thing.


Cass - Dec 30, 2007 3:11:57 pm PST #5531 of 10469
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

S7 was much better for me on rewatch because there weren't weeks and weeks of waiting between speechifying. Some shows can benefit from the anticipation of hiatus but Buffy S7 just made me want to beat things with wooden spoons.


sj - Dec 30, 2007 3:12:54 pm PST #5532 of 10469
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm finding S4 not!Cordy on Angel much much more annoying on rewatch.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 30, 2007 5:22:41 pm PST #5533 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Did you rewatch Season 3 first so you'd have Saint Cordelia fresh in your mind for comparison?


le nubian - Dec 31, 2007 1:11:08 am PST #5534 of 10469
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm finding S4 not!Cordy on Angel much much more annoying on rewatch.

I'm with you there. Beau and I watched the Jasmine arc - because he hadn't ever seen it, and I hadn't seen it since first airing - about a month ago and I just sat there shaking my head. I find the whole thing a little incomprehensible.


sj - Dec 31, 2007 6:18:00 am PST #5535 of 10469
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Did you rewatch Season 3 first so you'd have Saint Cordelia fresh in your mind for comparison?

Yeah. I didn't hate S3 Cordelia at all, except for the bs about her and Angel being in love. Which I didn't buy at all.


JZ - Dec 31, 2007 7:08:26 am PST #5536 of 10469
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

::does the dance of No Longer Alone::

sj and Cass are me -- I slammed all of S7 last year in about four days while trapped on bedrest, and it improves phenomenally on rewatch without the damn seven eternities between episodes. And the cringey eyerolly Giles Is Dead thing is much more easily ignored. All the things that irritated everyone: Not Dead Giles, Buffy's pontificating, Kennedy, the horde of potentials, Too Much Andrew -- feel so much less annoying, so much more balanced and proportionate and sense-making when the story isn't chopped up and scattered to the four winds, but allowed to march along in rapid, orderly, momentum-building progression.


sj - Dec 31, 2007 8:26:37 am PST #5537 of 10469
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

And the cringey eyerolly Giles Is Dead thing is much more easily ignored.

I usually don't spoil TCG for what is coming up in Buffy, but I did tell him that Giles wasn't dead and to ignore that part. I couldn't put another person through that.

I think also not sitting there and wondering, if this is going to be a spin off or is that going to be a spin off helps tremendously. I can just enjoy it for what it is.


Gris - Dec 31, 2007 8:30:31 am PST #5538 of 10469
Hey. New board.

I'm sure that it has been read by many of you before, but I just went through this entire List of 100 top moments in Buffy and it made me all sniffly. The author and I share similar loves for Willow and Tara/Willow, and her top three or four moments mesh with mine perfectly. The top 20 have clips!


beth b - Dec 31, 2007 10:31:44 am PST #5539 of 10469
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

That is good to hear about season 7 - I didn't hate it , but I wasn't sure where it stood as a whole in my brain. Now I can rewatch the whole thing at once and see if I agree with you all