I just realized I need one of those embroidered shirts a la ita's link a while back that says "Uppity woman"
Willow ,'The Killer In Me'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Fascinating link Ginger, thank you so much!
"Let's Judge Ourselves as People.'' They crowned a live sheep, and dumped girdles, cosmetics, high-heeled shoes, and bras into a "freedom trash can" while the cameras clicked
I remember that image, and as the years past, and I heard the term 'bra burning' as often as I heard 'draft card burning', I superimposed my own fire on the picture. I'm very, very glad to stand corrected in this and will share the link far and wide.
I superimposed my own fire on the picture.
this. And there was also that one episode of "Quantum Leap".
Interesting to read some of the reactions. I was ambivalent about some of Kartheiser's comments as well during the interview and I wanted to try and preserve some of that in the finished piece. The exchange about gender politics was the hardest one to get right because it came out of a longer conversation. I couldn't run the whole thing both for space and also because he kept rambling and repeating himself so I cut to the chase. The thing he kept circling back to was this idea that while we've improved society for the better since the era the show depicts, there was a certain comfort in knowing what was expected of you based on your sex, which is a fair (and definitely arguable) point to make. I do believe him when he says that some of the actresses on the set talked about how certain things about that time were "nice," although whether they said this jokingly or not and whether he would have been able to tell the difference either way is also debatable. And while he was too quick to fall back on lazy cliches like bra-burning and modern men are pussies, he didn't seem like a total Neanderthal. He just wasn't adept at arguing his case on a more thoughtful level--that story about his friend was an attempt at humor that backfired even as he was telling it. But that lack of polish was one of the reasons he was an interesting interview. A lot of the young actors I've interviewed are deathly boring because they never deviate from the standard "everything was great" script. So it was nice to talk to someone who was willing to speak his mind even if it led him to put his foot in his mouth more than once--that only made it clearer that his answers weren't rehearsed. I was impressed that he talked candidly about Angel, both in terms of the show's failings and his own. Going in, I was sure he'd want to get off that topic as fast as possible, but we spent a good chunk of the interview talking about it. I wouldn't necessarily defend any of his opinions, but it made for a better conversation (and hopefully a better read) than if he had kept them to himself.
Interesting that this subject should come up now. Judy Brady was on NPR tonight talking about how she came to write her classic "Why I want a wife" short. [link]
Has it really been 36 years?
Thanks, Fone Bone. I think you captured those qualities well, the lack of polish, the thoughtfulness, a bit of aggressiveness. I enjoyed it a lot.
I concur with Burrell. It was intriguing to see an interview that wasn't all canned answers. And I do think he was as brutally honest about himself as he was about AtS.
Thanks for the insight, Fone Bone. Those of us outside the media don't necessarily have the whole picture on how an interview makes its way from the talk to the page.
Thanks Fone Bone. I did appreciate that he was honest about his own failings, which made me feel like the other comments were honest feelings as well.
Thanks for commenting Fone Bone! It was, whether I agree or like him or whatever, a good interview.