That's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full.

Giles ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


JZ - Aug 22, 2007 9:46:49 am PDT #5185 of 10469
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Here's a list of reasons not to kill Xander, Giles, Spike, Oz, and Riley. And then you compare that to Jenny Calendar, Tara, Joyce, Anya.

And, oh, God, I just had a flash of an S3 in which Angelus offs Oz for Willow's discovery in exactly the same circumstances that he actually did Jenny. And I know blah-blah-too-early-for-Dark!Willow-cakes, but oh damn that would have been horrifying and twisted and just wrenching. Taking the terrible loveliness and eroticism and vulnerability of the tableau of Jenny's murdered body (and there's a whole dissertation hiding in that image about the male gaze and whose dead bodies we see and how -- such a world of difference between Jenny in a rose-petal-strewn bed and Wash impaled in his pilot's seat, dying in a moment of competence, confidence and power), and flipping the gender? Fuck. I love Oz to little bitty pieces, but now I long for this.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 22, 2007 9:49:02 am PDT #5186 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'll never forgive the writers for having Mr. Trick—he of the great "It's called an Uzi, ya chump. Could have saved your ass right about now," line—try to kill the Slayer on his own with a crate and a scarf.


P.M. Marc - Aug 22, 2007 9:50:57 am PDT #5187 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Taking the terrible loveliness and eroticism and vulnerability of the tableau of Jenny's murdered body (and there's a whole dissertation hiding in that image about the male gaze and whose dead bodies we see and how -- such a world of difference between Jenny in a rose-petal-strewn bed and Wash impaled in his pilot's seat, dying in a moment of competence, confidence and power)

Hey! Wanna write my Problematic Media essay for me?

Because, yeah, that image is one that's On the List.

(For simplicity's sake, the list STARTS with Laura Palmer for me. Sadly, it never quite ends.)


Burrell - Aug 22, 2007 9:55:20 am PDT #5188 of 10469
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

hey Plei, if you are going to write that essay, you should look up who said that the definition of the Beautiful was the image of a dead woman. (er, roughly something like that)


P.M. Marc - Aug 22, 2007 9:56:53 am PDT #5189 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

hey Plei, if you are going to write that essay, you should look up who said that the definition of the Beautiful was the image of a dead woman. (er, roughly something like that)

I am going to write it, but I only have the vaguest familiarity with that.


Burrell - Aug 22, 2007 10:02:03 am PDT #5190 of 10469
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

My memory is very vague, can't bring up the who said it at all, but I'm thinking late Victorian maybe?


P.M. Marc - Aug 22, 2007 10:03:28 am PDT #5191 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It sounds late Victorian.

Google didn't find me much yet, but it DID find me this amazing essay on the notion at hand when applied to Blade Runner: [link]

Wow.

That's... yes. That!


Burrell - Aug 22, 2007 10:04:41 am PDT #5192 of 10469
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Thank you Bartletts! It's from Edgar Allan Poe: "The death ... of a beautiful woman, is unquestionably the most poetical topic in the world."


Burrell - Aug 22, 2007 10:06:11 am PDT #5193 of 10469
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Hmm, that link justs gets me to the author's bio.


P.M. Marc - Aug 22, 2007 10:06:16 am PDT #5194 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Hey! I was just about to post that I found that!

Also, that I feel I have lost mass goth points for only having the vague, "Eh? Sounds familiar..." response.