Kaylee: Is that him? Mal: That's the buffet table. Kaylee: Well how can we be sure, unless we question it?

'Shindig'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


sumi - Aug 21, 2007 4:16:35 am PDT #5137 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!

I bought my second copy of season 2 in the slimline case. I think that if I could afford it (and even at 15.99 I cannot) I would get them all that way.


tiggy - Aug 21, 2007 4:55:49 am PDT #5138 of 10469
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I much prefer the slimline versions. i would gladly trade the four or so seasons of B/A for the slimline ones. the discs always fall out of those crappy fold-out ones and get scratched or lost.


sumi - Aug 21, 2007 4:57:14 am PDT #5139 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!

And they take up alot of room - which I do not have.


beekaytee - Aug 21, 2007 5:06:28 am PDT #5140 of 10469
Compassionately intolerant

The discs always fall out of those crappy fold-out ones

This is absolutely true...and I'd love the extra shelf space slimlines would give me, but when I think of replacing 10 vs. 2, not sticking with what I have would seem like a waste.


SailAweigh - Aug 21, 2007 5:22:52 am PDT #5141 of 10469
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Sounds like it's time to go replace my missing seasons, since all my Buffy DVDs got ripped off. I've only got one season left in the old packaging, because my daughter had loaned it to a friend. I've replaced two of them with the slimlines, but I've been holding off replacing all of them at once because of cost. At that price I practically can't afford to not buy them.


beekaytee - Aug 22, 2007 8:19:35 am PDT #5142 of 10469
Compassionately intolerant

Moved from Other Media:

Bleah. It's just...problematic. In order to level the playing/dying field, you've got to dig out really, really minor characters on one side to balance out the deeply rooted, longtime, extremely emotionally weighty characters on the other. And they really don't. And of course every death individually made perfect sense, was demanded by the narrative, increased the stakes, etc. etc. etc. But, still: Given that Joss and co. had already decided that no core characters were going to die (or, at least, die a no-takebacks no-resurrection no moving to another show Death), it's still at least mildly uncomfortable that all but one of the big heart-filled secondary characters to die were female. Of course, it's all positively hugs and puppies compared to AtS.

Ugh. This really needs to move to Buffy.

I completely agree JZ. Especially in light of Joss' overt feminism. Unless, of course, feminism in this case means strong, vibrant, emotionally engaged characters of the female brand must die to prove their superiority equality?

Okay. No. That doesn't work.


sumi - Aug 22, 2007 8:37:00 am PDT #5143 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!

So we're talking Joyce, Tara, Jenny Calendar vs. Jonathan, Snyder, The Mayor (really his own fault), Trick (can he count? Vibrant AND dynamic),

Would it have been better if Willow had lost Oz AND Tara?

I mean, Buffy sent Angel to Hell. And she gave up on say, Owen to prevent his untimely demise.

Maybe it would have been better to kill off the scooby gang? Xander, Giles and Oz.


beekaytee - Aug 22, 2007 8:40:58 am PDT #5144 of 10469
Compassionately intolerant

sumi, I think JZ's point (forgive me, Hon, for not waiting for you to respond) was that a disproportionate number of 'good' characters who died were women.

While I adored the Mayor, his actions dq him from that list.


sumi - Aug 22, 2007 8:41:48 am PDT #5145 of 10469
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Oh, you mean "good" in a moral sense not in an "interesting to watch" sense.


SailAweigh - Aug 22, 2007 8:42:08 am PDT #5146 of 10469
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I included Flutie for a couple of reasons. He was in more than one episode and his death was part of Xander's character development. He was more than just a random redshirt. I can be persuaded otherwise, though, as he was really a minor player over even the short run of season 1.