Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!

Xander ,'Chosen'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 01, 2007 2:05:48 am PDT #5042 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

They just aired "Hero" on TNT, and I didn't realize until the middle of it that I'd avoided rewatching since Glenn Quinn's death. I thought it was a fairly lackluster episode when I first saw it, but man does that ending get rougher in light of what happened afterwards.

Wow, remember how cute and natural the budding romance between Doyle and Cordy was? What happened to that organic, believable approach to relationships in later seasons?


Topic!Cindy - May 01, 2007 3:19:10 am PDT #5043 of 10469
What is even happening?

Ballet, beatification, heavenly ascents, and supernatural prophylactics.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 01, 2007 4:53:09 am PDT #5044 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Even before then. In season 2 the show's quality was undiminished, but the Darla/Angel relationship seemed to set the tone for the rest of the series. And their dynamic made Buffy/Spike look emotionally healthy by comparison.

It occurs to me that many of Season 3's problems could have been avoided if the writers had traded off partners in the big game of Angel Investigations Spin the Bottle. If they'd followed up on the initial flirty vibe between Cordy and Gunn we could have gotten a great snarky argue-and-trade-insults-but-got-your-back pairing similar to Turk and Carla on Scrubs. Without his mooning over Cordy, I could easily see Angel getting pulled into reciprocating Fred's unrequited crush given his prior pattern with tiny, seemingly helpless women who are deceptively dangerous and have more issues than National Geographic. And that still could have helped spin a hurt Wesley off into Lila's clutches, the one good coupling spawned by all the Season 3 melodrama.


P.M. Marc - May 01, 2007 7:20:47 am PDT #5045 of 10469
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It occurs to me that many of Season 3's problems could have been avoided if the writers had traded off partners in the big game of Angel Investigations Spin the Bottle. If they'd followed up on the initial flirty vibe between Cordy and Gunn we could have gotten a great snarky argue-and-trade-insults-but-got-your-back pairing similar to Turk and Carla on Scrubs. Without his mooning over Cordy, I could easily see Angel getting pulled into reciprocating Fred's unrequited crush given his prior pattern with tiny, seemingly helpless women who are deceptively dangerous and have more issues than National Geographic. And that still could have helped spin a hurt Wesley off into Lila's clutches, the one good coupling spawned by all the Season 3 melodrama

Oh, HELL YEAH. Man, that would have been AWESOME.


Topic!Cindy - May 01, 2007 7:59:01 am PDT #5046 of 10469
What is even happening?

I want Matt to revive the show.


Nora Deirdre - May 01, 2007 8:01:54 am PDT #5047 of 10469
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I want Matt to revive the show.

If there's mouth -to-mouth involved with Boreanez, perhaps we can persuade him!


Strega - May 01, 2007 9:40:08 am PDT #5048 of 10469

Heh, I must be in the universe that's a spooky mirror-mirror version of yours. Okay, I might describe Cordy & Doyle's relationship as "organic" in the sense that it went bad quickly... But then, the only relationship I ever really bought was the one between Darla & Angel, so I suppose I have a slightly different view of what is and isn't cute.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 01, 2007 4:16:48 pm PDT #5049 of 10469
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh, they definitely sold me that they were headed toward their tricentennial of dysfunctional hotness together. But I completely bought just about all the show's relationships up though the first few episodes of Season 3.

Well, unless you count the idea of Lindsey being hung up on Darla purely for her own sake. I mean, c'mon.

I want Matt to revive the show.

Hey, from your lips to the Powerball Lotto's ears.


sumi - May 01, 2007 4:35:12 pm PDT #5050 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!

Becoming Part 1 in about 25 minutes. . . or after Veronica Mars.


sumi - May 01, 2007 5:40:16 pm PDT #5051 of 10469
Art Crawl!!!

It's too bad this episode has to start off with that accent. But other than that -- excellent episdoe. (I'm at close to the end here -- I belive that Dru will be killing Kendra at any moment.)