I did a poll in LJ, on Xander's BIG LIE. Feel free to fill it out: [link]

I never thought Xander's motives were all that complicated. It was a split-second decision, or he wouldn't have even mentioned that there was a message.

I assumed Buffy & Willow would find out about the whole thing early in S3, and, like, be grumpy about it for 2 episodes and then get over it. I was always surprised that it was such a huge deal in the fandom.

I never thought Xander's motives were all that complicated. It was a split-second decision, or he wouldn't have even mentioned that there was a message.

Strega, you don't think his motives were complication but what do you think was going on with him--fear, jealousy, a need for vengeance, a firm belief all vampires need to die?

He changed his mind at the last minute, but re-ensouling Angel was something he'd had on his mind (and been against) for a while. He'd already had the argument with Buffy, when Buffy and Willow told the gang they found Jenny's transliteration of the enjoining spell. He was at the library prior to the first attempt (when Dru & the gang raided and killed Kendra). He also had had time between learning Willow was going to try the spell again (at the hospital), and meeting Buffy on the way to the mansion, to argue with himself over what to do.

I thought Xander's motives were incredibly complicated, but I also think he didn't think about it very hard -- that "kick his ass" came, for me, out of all the emotions Cindy named, all of a sudden.

That said, it didn't surprise me that it didn't come out, and we see as the show progresses that Xander can keep a secret (memfault on episode where he defeats undead high schoolers in the boiler room, for one). I was just pleased as punch that the lie came out in S7, knowing that the show was ending.

The Zeppo!

I knew I could count on you, you Xander fan, you.

I think he was thinking of Buffy. And that she'd finally committed to killing Angel, and it wouldn't help her to hear, "Well, actually, maybe you shouldn't..." Honestly, I think if she'd said, "I just don't know if I can do it, even now," he'd have told her that it might not be necessary. It seemed supportive, not vindictive.

The rightness or wrongness just didn't seem that important, I guess. We didn't see him agonizing over it, so I can't assume he was. And the way he says, "Oh! Willow told me to tell you..." is like he'd almost forgotten about it himself.

The Zeppo!

First BtVS I ever saw. It confused the Hell out of me and I needed to watch another episode just to find out what was going on.

What bothered me about Xander's Big Lie was his self-righteousness in "Dead Man's Party," when everyone is ganging up on Buffy over her running away and possible running again. I think the Big Lie played a fairly significant part in Buffy's feelings of isolation from even her friends following her "killing" of Angel. Xander seemed to have no clue as to how his message affected Buffy.

BTW, I love how these issues and ideas are still discussed here, even though the show's been off the air for over three years.

What bothered me about Xander's Big Lie was his self-righteousness in "Dead Man's Party," when everyone is ganging up on Buffy over her running away and possible running again. I think the Big Lie played a fairly significant part in Buffy's feelings of isolation from even her friends following her "killing" of Angel. Xander seemed to have no clue as to how his message affected Buffy.

Yes. After Strega mentioned that she was surprised it was such a big deal, this is what came to my mind. I think Dead Man's Party made the lie a bigger deal than if Xander had been ultra-sympathetic to Buffy in it, and nobody had known why.