None of it means a damn thing.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Lee - Jun 19, 2006 7:50:34 am PDT #3033 of 10464
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I made it through the whole thing with only a teensy bit of fast forwarding, but not without some tears. It was a good ending to my weekend o' wallow.


SailAweigh - Jun 19, 2006 8:20:59 am PDT #3034 of 10464
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I love that episode, but it is so damn hard to watch. It's a great one for getting the tears out when you feel the need but can't otherwise perform (hee.)


Zenkitty - Jun 19, 2006 8:26:08 am PDT #3035 of 10464
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

The scene that really got to me was when Buffy tells Dawn what's happened, and you see Dawn collapse out side the classroom window. It makes it more heartbreaking, somehow, that you don't hear anything Buffy says.


DavidS - Jun 19, 2006 8:42:57 am PDT #3036 of 10464
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It makes it more heartbreaking, somehow, that you don't hear anything Buffy says.

Callback to the scene where Willow and Buffy are crying after Jenny's death and you only get it from Angelus' POV, outside the window.

"The Body" was very true to my experience of my mother's death, but it's not unbearable to me. What it mostly calls up are those weird moments where death doesn't really have a social protocol in our culture, so you're fumbling around and bumping into emotional landmines and stepping on toes and acting inappropriate.

One thing I've never seen portrayed in film or TV about death is the clarity that it provides. How your daily tasks and interactions tend to bob in your face like so many balloons, and death suddenly gives each one the proper weight. And now you can see the few balloons that matter - your family, your friends, your creative work - and the bullshit things sink and all their stresses recede. For a time.


ChiKat - Jun 19, 2006 9:44:25 am PDT #3037 of 10464
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I've been rewatching, too. I'm in season 6 right now, but when I was rewatching season 5? I just holed up and cried for a few eps.


Cass - Jun 19, 2006 10:14:56 am PDT #3038 of 10464
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

My friend, P, discovered Buffy when he DH gave her the series boxed set just before I moved up here. So I have been giddily rewatching *and* watching her see it all for the first time.

In email today, she just started S5 and my first thought, was ooooh, The Body is coming. Not soon really, but I know it is coming. From beneath you, it makes you sob like a baby.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 19, 2006 1:51:49 pm PDT #3039 of 10464
What is even happening?

One thing I've never seen portrayed in film or TV about death is the clarity that it provides. How your daily tasks and interactions tend to bob in your face like so many balloons, and death suddenly gives each one the proper weight. And now you can see the few balloons that matter - your family, your friends, your creative work - and the bullshit things sink and all their stresses recede. For a time.

Did your mom die before Emmett was born, Hec? I ask, because this is almost in direct opposition to my experience? Well, my day to day stuff was my family, so maybe that was the difference. And I guess stuff had its proper weight, but I was never free just to concentrate on dad dying, or on my mourning.

The kids still got sick. There was still a blizzard to deal with even though we had to get to the undertaker and the florist, and have the minister over. The kids' conjunctivitis got so bad it literally looked like snot on their eyes, but the doctor's office was closed, and he was pissy when I had him paged, because I had to have them on antibiotics, before we were around family for days. We still had to shovel. Ben had an event at school, and then his Pine Box Derby race caused us to postpone the wake and funeral by a day. We still had to get him to and from school. Scott had to take time off, so I could be at the hospital, and then so I could be with mum to make all the arrangements.

It was one of those reasons I appreciated the vampire showing up in the hospital morgue, in The Body. The shit doesn't stop, even though you feel like the world ought to stop. I'll stop now, before I go all Auden.


Scrappy - Jun 19, 2006 2:01:27 pm PDT #3040 of 10464
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I think you are bnoth right, Cindy. The little stuff does go on, but you can SEE it's little, if you know what I mean. Somehting like not getting a parking place near the door was still annoying, but I knew it didn't deserve a second's thought because in the big picture it was meaningless.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 19, 2006 5:16:28 pm PDT #3041 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

In my experience regarding family funerals, people have been far more likely to hyper-obsess over minutia as a way to distract themselves from the big scary death issue. Like, my aunts having screaming freak-outs over who rides in which car. Or me channeling Martha Stewart and washing ALL the dishes/pots/pans after a wake luncheon for 50 relatives.


-t - Jun 19, 2006 5:26:00 pm PDT #3042 of 10464
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Or me channeling Martha Stewart and washing ALL the dishes/pots/pans after a wake luncheon for 50 relatives.

This was me the day after FiL's death. I was in the kitchen for hours, because that was something useful I could do.

That seemed like a time of great fogginess and not much clarity at all, to me.