But if he'd taken time to explain, we might have had to forego one of Buffy's inspirational speeches to the Potentials!
Don't I get a cookie?
Spike ,'Never Leave Me'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 14, 2005 7:56:08 am PST #2542 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Fred Pete - Dec 14, 2005 8:37:15 am PST #2543 of 10459
Ann, that's a ferret.
And the downside, Matt?
Connie Neil - Dec 14, 2005 8:51:51 am PST #2544 of 10459
brillig
And the downside, Matt?
snerk
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 14, 2005 9:11:40 am PST #2545 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I still wish they'd CGI'd a bug or soap bubble passing through her during one of those.
Betsy HP - Dec 15, 2005 9:07:09 am PST #2546 of 10459
If I only had a brain...
But if he'd taken time to explain, we might have had to forego one of Buffy's inspirational speeches to the Potentials!
::kills Matt; hides body::
Ailleann - Dec 15, 2005 10:02:59 am PST #2547 of 10459
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"The Body" was on FX this morning. Still gets me every. time. Especially Anya's little speech.
Topic!Cindy - Dec 19, 2005 2:56:28 am PST #2548 of 10459
What is even happening?
Am I the only Buffista who had mixed reactions to Anya's fruit punch speech? On one level, I was touched, but on another (even the first time I saw the episode), I felt manipulated, and it felt like a conscious attempt on Joss's part to capture the this-side-of-the-mortal-coil feel of Emily's Goodbye to clocks ticking speech from Thornton Wilder's Our Town.
By the by, I don't mean to disrespect The Body. Like a few other episodes of BtVS, it holds a perennial spot on my great TV list. I know I have some Anya issues, and many of them involve the writers' (what I saw as) over-reliance on the I-am-recently-human facet the character, so my reaction to that speech will never be all that pure.
§ ita § - Dec 19, 2005 4:01:21 am PST #2549 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If Our Town had never existed, would it still bother you? I mean, are you affected by the conscious attempt to capture a feel already captured in fiction, or just the attempt to capture that emotion?
If the former, do you know that's what he was trying to do, and if the latter, what's so special about that emotion? Or is it the conscious part?
Ailleann - Dec 19, 2005 5:03:38 am PST #2550 of 10459
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I'm not familiar with Our Town t /heathen so I don't really have a frame of reference. But I agree that in general they relied too much on Anya's ex-demon status for a go-to on her character. True, she was a demon for a thousand years, but she was human for 20-some before that, and should be no stranger to basic human emotion. The 20th/21st century, sure.
§ ita § - Dec 19, 2005 5:07:11 am PST #2551 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
While I have problems with Anya's depictions and her alien-ness (who's to say, though, how much you forget in a thousand years? How much does 2% of your experience count for in the end?), I think I prefer in-character to a properly created character. Intermittently displaying too much humanity when she's framed as distant and not understanding would get up my nose way more.