So, how was your summer? Mine was fun. Saw some fish. Went mad with hunger. Hallucinated a whole bunch.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


sumi - Oct 28, 2005 4:25:14 am PDT #2313 of 10459
Art Crawl!!!

Okay, I might watch a movie about the slayerettes if we can have Drusilla hunting them down and killing them.


DavidS - Oct 28, 2005 7:18:42 pm PDT #2314 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Stumbled on a show on the WE (Women's Entertainment?) channel titled, Night Bites: Women And Their Vampires which featured clips from many vampy things including Buffy and Angel and interviews with Stephanie Romanov, Marti Noxon and Anne Rice.

It'll be repeated if you have TiVo. Also reportage from various gothy/vampy scenes.


Amy - Oct 28, 2005 7:23:49 pm PDT #2315 of 10459
Because books.

I saw the last twenty minutes, too! I tuned in right as they were interviewing Marti Noxon about BtVS.


Kalshane - Nov 02, 2005 4:45:26 am PST #2316 of 10459
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I finally cracked open my Buffy season 6 DVDs yesterday after having them for who knows how long. I made it up to "Gone" last night, though I watched OMWF with the commentary on because I've already seen it about a hundred times at Cons and friends houses.

I had no recollection of how bad "Wrecked" actually was. I'd only seen it once, when it first aired and when I was brand new to the show so I didn't have a lot of reference. I recalled it as being not the greatest episode, but hardly terrible. Watching it yesterday was a rude awakening. Ugh.


Kate P. - Nov 02, 2005 5:01:14 am PST #2317 of 10459
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Oh yeah. I actually just watched that last night with my housemate, who's making her way through all my Buffy DVDs at lightning speed. It's just so, so bad. My hatred for the magic = crack storyline has only increased over time. ugh.


Gris - Nov 02, 2005 5:22:42 am PST #2318 of 10459
Hey. New board.

I think we should rewrite all of Season 6. In my opinion, the changes wouldn't have to be THAT huge - just fixing Smashed and Wrecked would completely change the character of the entire Willow/Tara thing, bringing it back to good or even great, even if we didn't touch anything else.

Of course, this is speaking from the perspective of somebody who actually quite likes much of Season 6. I just think the magic!crack storyline in particular was terribly thought out, written, and executed, and completely stifled the potential inherent in the "Willow has serious boundary and control issues that need exploring" setup that built through all of season 5 and climaxed in OMWF and Tabula Rasa.


Kalshane - Nov 02, 2005 5:43:43 am PST #2319 of 10459
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I don't mind the magic being an addictive thing. I can totally see that. Having it map directly to drug abuse, to the point where we suddenly have magic junkies, however, is just dumb.

So far, "Wrecked" is the only episode I've had a problem with, though the fallout in "Gone" where Buffy and Dawn have to remove anything that could be used for magic from the house grates as well.


Fred Pete - Nov 02, 2005 5:47:33 am PST #2320 of 10459
Ann, that's a ferret.

Having it map directly to drug abuse, to the point where we suddenly have magic junkies, however, is just dumb.

Even worse -- no set up. No warnings when Willow was just starting out. Or even when Giles went ballistic over the resurrection of Buffy. Just all of a sudden, oops, magic can be addictive.


Kate P. - Nov 02, 2005 5:52:06 am PST #2321 of 10459
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Having it map directly to drug abuse, to the point where we suddenly have magic junkies, however, is just dumb.

God, yes. Amy breaking in to steal SAGE?? For the love. Like D. said, it took the whole interesting backstory of Willow's issues with using magic inappropriately and sent it screaming off the tracks. It was stupid, cliched, and came out of nowhere. oy. I do think that Dark!Willow was a great place to go with that storyline, but I dearly wish they could have avoided the whole junkie bit altogether and gotten there some other way.


Vortex - Nov 02, 2005 5:57:47 am PST #2322 of 10459
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

No warnings when Willow was just starting out.

I disagree, there were warnings -- the werewolf ep where she was going to do a spell against Veruca, Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered -- all indications that she was misusing magic, and showing a lack of judgment with the power.